The School of Love

[kimtae]

Originally Posted by ShangriLa

Make eye contact with women and smile. If they smile back, or otherwise show some other sign of interest, then walk over to them and introduce yourself. If you do that, you would have done 50% of the work. Now that the hard part is done...

That's the hard part? I would have thought the hardd part would be getting her into your car while the roofies are making her all stumbly. But you would know, eh?

[King4aDay]

Originally Posted by kimtae

That's the hard part? I would have thought the hardd part would be getting her into your car while the roofies are making her all stumbly. But you would know, eh?

I think that was the work of shangrila's dubious masturbation partner, shogun!

[wlee815]

Dear 44's,

I'd like to clarify one point-- the ABCs of Attraction method allows any man to expand his romantic and dating options for either short term flings or for long term committed relationships. If any of you have taken the bootcamp and have found evidence to the contrary, please let me know. I'd be very surprised if you did.

I really like the spirit of this thread, and I'm anxiously looking forward to seeing a methodology that can help a man achieve at least a few of the things that I've been able to achieve in the past year since I took my bootcamp:

1. Learn how to approach girls any time of day and talk to them in a non-creepy and non-needy way
2. Improve your dating options with women
3. Romantically connect with women on a consistent basis
4. Feel confident in knowing that you will never have trouble meeting a new girl and getting a date
5. Learn how to be yourself
6. Learn how to express your romantic interest in a girl in a non-creepy and non-needy way.

Go to this url for additional detail:

http://www.betterasianman.com/blog/?p=107

If, after such a methodology is posted, I will happily post it on my website so that others can enjoy the same fulfillment that I have enjoyed, but without having to spend $1,000.00+ dollars on an ABCs of Attraction Bootcamp.

I am anxiously looking forward to seeing at least one person use such a new methodology to overcome social anxieties and sexual anxieties in the same way that I have outlined under the "One Asian American Man's life" category on my blog. I would love to endorse such a method on my website.

-William

[wlee815]

Originally Posted by ShangriLa

Make eye contact with women and smile. If they smile back, or otherwise show some other sign of interest, then walk over to them and introduce yourself. If you do that, you would have done 50% of the work. Now that the hard part is done, all you have to do is be as funny as Jim Carrey, as charming as Prince Charming, and as successful as Donald Trump. Good luck.

Dear 44's,

If you're able to implement this advice and overcome similar social anxieties and sexual anxieties that I've had, I'd love to tell your story on my website. My contact information is under the "contact me" link at www.betterasianman.com

-William

[wlee815]

Originally Posted by kimtae

Don't be a wuss, don't be a dick, don't be a bitch, do be cool. That should about wrap it up.

Dear 44's,

I apologize to you that I am a newbie on your forum, and I do not yet know your personalities well enough to know if you're writing something that is supposed to be intended as a joke, or if it's actually a serious suggestion. I appreciate the humor, but I also would genuinely like to identify a possible alternative to paying $1,000+ dollars on a bootcamp in order to become better with women and overcome some, if not all, of the obstacles that I faced in my romantic endeavors up to the age of 29. I am quite certain that most of you here are already naturally good with women, and I really wish I could have lived my entire life being that way. Unfortunately, I've only been able to be good with women for the last year. So, if you feel inclined to do so, help a brother out and provide your alternative to the ABCs of Attraction here.

-William

[tokyolovestory]

The problem is that anyone who claims they have a "formula" that works on women, without specifying what kind of woman, etc, is automatically placing all women into one category and making assumptions about how "women in general" or "the typical woman" thinks, acts, reacts, feels, etc. You're not going to find an easy answer. So even though you might think kimtae's response is flippant, it's pretty much the only thing that's going to work. Otherwise, you are objectifying women by not allowing for the reality that all women are different.

[wlee815]

Originally Posted by tokyolovestory

The problem is that anyone who claims they have a "formula" that works on women, without specifying what kind of woman, etc, is automatically placing all women into one category and making assumptions about how "women in general" or "the typical woman" thinks, acts, reacts, feels, etc. You're not going to find an easy answer. So even though you might think kimtae's response is flippant, it's pretty much the only thing that's going to work. Otherwise, you are objectifying women by not allowing for the reality that all women are different.

Tokyolovestory,

Thanks for pointing that out. The ABCs of Attraction method actually doesn't work on all women. Even the Asian Playboy himself can confirm this detail for you. Also, I agree with you that all women are different, and should be treated so.

Now that we've gotten that that out of the way, do you, or anyone else on this forum, have a possible alternative to paying $1,000+ dollars on a bootcamp in order to become better with women and overcome some, if not all, of the obstacles that I faced in my romantic endeavors up to the age of 29. I am quite certain that most of you here are already naturally good with women, and I really wish I could have lived my entire life being that way. Unfortunately, I've only been able to be good with women for the last year. So, if you feel inclined to do so, help a brother out and provide your alternative to the ABCs of Attraction here.

-William

[King4aDay]

I agree with Tokyo's statement.

We should move forward only with the understanding that there is no
one system or method that works on all women. There is no short cut
to loving a woman in the way that she wants to be loved. You just
have to take the time and find out who she is and what she desires.

That being agreed upon...

Married Women!

No not THAT. I mean that if you are kind, and polite, helpful, and thoughtful,
that married women are often very willing to introduce you to their single
friends. Just because a woman is "off the market" so to speak, doesn't
mean that you will do well to ignore her, or believe that she is not
watching you.

Prove yourself to be a worthwhile man to women, in the non-romantic
arena, and you will discover that they can be very helpful to you in
finding romance.

One caveat: By ALL means avoid any appearance of trying to hit on
married women or it will have the exact opposite effect! And you
will totally deserve what you get.

[kimtae]

Originally Posted by King4aDay

I think that was the work of shangrila's dubious masturbation partner, shogun!

You're right, I can't keep my dummies apart.

Wlee, I was being facetious but what I said does pretty much sum it up. I've largely avoided posting on PUA's, I have my own thoughts but I don't care to get into anymore discussions with the lowbrow advocates.
If you want my honest opinion in more detail, here it is. Success in dating obviously relies on many factors, some of them outside of your control. But anything outside of your direct control can be minimized. Don't look like a movie star? Well, you can still dress to the nines, groom well and take care of your body. Otherwise, there are a lot of factors that you have to be in control of.
1. Self-confidence. One of the reasons that PUA services have any success is that most guys who enroll have very little self-confidence. The PUA pumps you up and by giving you a mentor as well as a feeling of comfort in numbers (ie the wingman and any other guys in the class with you). You don't need this though if you can just learn to be comfortable with yourself as a sexual being. You need to see yourself not as who you think you are or how you think others assess you but as who you want to be. It's positive self-reinforcement. This is what I will call the Fonzie principle. Be cool. Be like Fonzie. That doesn't mean wear a black leather jacket and say AAAYYYY all the time with your thumbs up. That means, here's a mild-mannered, short, dyslexic Jewish guy who goes on TV and convinces the world he's the epitome of tough and cool (on the 70's Show, Eric Forman was forrced by Jackie to admit Fonzie could beat up Bruce Lee). No, it's not easy alone and having a DI or mentor figure pumping you up can make it easier but you can achieve the same thing without them.
2. Don't be a pushover, don't be a dick. A lot of guys fall into one of the two categories. Don't let people walk all over you but don't go out of your way to be an ass in front of people. Stand your ground and never get more worked up than the other guy. Never blow people off but never let them pigeonhole you.
3. It's a numbers game. Somewhere out there, there is a girl for you. If you're Brad Pitt, it's apparently every woman. If you're Bill Murray, well, you gotta work a little harder but they're there. Even the PUA's operate on this principle though they act like it's some kind of wisdom from King Solomon. So, don't be afraid of rejection. In fact, go out of your way to hit on at least one woman a week that you think will reject you outright. You'd be surprised what you can learn from failure.
4. As TLS mentioned, there is no one magic charm that gets all women but all women love a man of mystery. This means different things to different women but Austin Powers isn't the only one to figure this out. Most guys talk too much about themselves when they meet a chick who seems to be responding. Keep the conversation flowing but hold some back for next time. The more she talks about herself the better for you.

Anything else is just common sense.

[THX1138]

Originally Posted by King4aDay;45739
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One caveat:[/b] By ALL means avoid any appearance of trying to hit on
married women or it will have the exact opposite effect! And you
will totally deserve what you get.

You're not speaking from personal experience on this matter, are you?

And what if her name is Mrs. Robinson?