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King4aDay · Sep 10th, 2008, 02:49 PM

Earlier this week, when I was discussing with William on his podcast, I was
asked by William to contribute any advice I might have on the subject of...

Well... wooing women

I was asked, certainly not because I am an expert on the subject, but
because I have been something of a critic of PUA methodology and it's
underlying assumptions about women and how women think.

That being said, I have brought William's request here to you because I feel
that he would better benefit from the collective wisdom of all you Playboys
and Playgirls. (Asian and otherwise)

Please share your thoughts on any of the following:
1) how to meet women,
2) how to approach women,
3) how to keep the interest of women
or perhaps
4) dating/relationship tips

Also some 5) WHAT NOT TO DO admonitions might be helpful as well.
Please try to be specific, and try to avoid obvious clichés.

William's position has been that Asian Playboy's ABC's of Attraction have
been the best advice that he has received on the wooing of the fair gender.

Personally, I believe that we might particularly benefit from hearing
some female opinions on the subject, since APB's testosterone-rich
posse seems to be somewhat short on female instructors at the moment.

Thank you for your help.

Sep 10th, 2008, 03:21 PM

Is this about how to get a fling or build a long term relationship that leads to marriage?

Because PUA seems to be directed towards short, meaningless flings and that's why their "methods" work. Sort of like using high pressure sales tactics and dumping them before they have buyers remorse.

If you're aiming for a long term relationship the methods would be very different and definitely not as effective for a short term fling.

King4aDay · Sep 10th, 2008, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dage

Is this about how to get a fling or build a long term relationship that leads to marriage?

Because PUA seems to be directed towards short, meaningless flings and that's why their "methods" work. Sort of like using high pressure sales tactics and dumping them before they have buyers remorse.

If you're aiming for a long term relationship the methods would be very different and definitely not as effective for a short term fling.

A good question, dage.

I am willing to hear theories on either view.

Although, I have observed that most guys will attempt to metriculate from
the "meaningless fling" category into the "long-term realtionship" at some point in their lives.

I welcome your views.

kimtae · Sep 10th, 2008, 09:12 PM

Don't be a wuss, don't be a dick, don't be a bitch, do be cool. That should about wrap it up.

King4aDay · Sep 10th, 2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimtae

Don't be a wuss, don't be a dick, don't be a bitch, do be cool. That should about wrap it up.

Hahaha.

Short, sweet, and self-evident!

Sep 10th, 2008, 10:21 PM

I'm not that familiar with PUA since I'm not the fling-type of person so what I'm saying about it might not be true (all I know about it is from what I've skimmed on this site).

But I feel that PUA is a self-selecting methodology. As in, the women who "fall" for it, are those who want flings as well.

And since PUA is essentially a numbers game, that's where most of the success comes from.

***

As for general advice... yeah what what kimtae said

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimtae

Don't be a wuss, don't be a dick, don't be a bitch, do be cool. That should about wrap it up.

ShangriLa · Sep 11th, 2008, 12:03 AM

Make eye contact with women and smile. If they smile back, or otherwise show some other sign of interest, then walk over to them and introduce yourself. If you do that, you would have done 50% of the work. Now that the hard part is done, all you have to do is be as funny as Jim Carrey, as charming as Prince Charming, and as successful as Donald Trump. Good luck.

King4aDay · Sep 11th, 2008, 01:13 AM

Actually yeah...

Something that is often overlooked.

Many guys don't even realize that they have a habit of averting their eyes
when they're nervous about meeting a woman. Not to mention that they're not
relaxed and therefore don't smile.

Good basic advice Shangrila.

Ike · Sep 11th, 2008, 01:18 AM

So there's this guy that Will links to, whose name is "Johnny Wolf". I read a few of the dude's blog posts and found a before + after pic of him:

The before picture is adorable, and the after picture is sleazy. My point? Not all girls are attracted to the same things.

King4aDay · Sep 11th, 2008, 01:22 AM

^ Not even red sports blazers?

You can't speak for ALL women, of course, but perhaps you can
share a few things that could be helpful to guys?

Sep 10th, 2008, 02:49 PM	#1
King4aDay Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 663	The School of Love Earlier this week, when I was discussing with William on his podcast, I was asked by William to contribute any advice I might have on the subject of... Well... wooing women I was asked, certainly not because I am an expert on the subject, but because I have been something of a critic of PUA methodology and it's underlying assumptions about women and how women think. That being said, I have brought William's request here to you because I feel that he would better benefit from the collective wisdom of all you Playboys and Playgirls. (Asian and otherwise) Please share your thoughts on any of the following: 1) how to meet women, 2) how to approach women, 3) how to keep the interest of women or perhaps 4) dating/relationship tips Also some 5) WHAT NOT TO DO admonitions might be helpful as well. Please try to be specific, and try to avoid obvious clichés. William's position has been that Asian Playboy's ABC's of Attraction have been the best advice that he has received on the wooing of the fair gender. Personally, I believe that we might particularly benefit from hearing some female opinions on the subject, since APB's testosterone-rich posse seems to be somewhat short on female instructors at the moment. Thank you for your help. __________________ I began forming words at 16 month of age, and yet it may take the rest of my life to master the simple art of silence. King

Sep 10th, 2008, 09:12 PM	#4
kimtae 44s blackbelt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,658	Don't be a wuss, don't be a dick, don't be a bitch, do be cool. That should about wrap it up. __________________ Frank Chin: With rare exceptions, all that has been published in this country by "Asian Americans" writing about themselves has been white, racist propaganda."

Sep 11th, 2008, 01:13 AM	#8
King4aDay Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 663	Actually yeah... Something that is often overlooked. Many guys don't even realize that they have a habit of averting their eyes when they're nervous about meeting a woman. Not to mention that they're not relaxed and therefore don't smile. Good basic advice Shangrila. __________________ I began forming words at 16 month of age, and yet it may take the rest of my life to master the simple art of silence. King

Sep 11th, 2008, 01:22 AM	#10
King4aDay Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 663	^ Not even red sports blazers? You can't speak for ALL women, of course, but perhaps you can share a few things that could be helpful to guys? __________________ I began forming words at 16 month of age, and yet it may take the rest of my life to master the simple art of silence. King Last edited by King4aDay : Sep 11th, 2008 at 01:26 AM.

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Sep 10th, 2008, 03:21 PM	#2
dage Posts: n/a	Is this about how to get a fling or build a long term relationship that leads to marriage? Because PUA seems to be directed towards short, meaningless flings and that's why their "methods" work. Sort of like using high pressure sales tactics and dumping them before they have buyers remorse. If you're aiming for a long term relationship the methods would be very different and definitely not as effective for a short term fling.

Sep 11th, 2008, 12:03 AM	#7
ShangriLa Shogun's masturbation partner Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55	Make eye contact with women and smile. If they smile back, or otherwise show some other sign of interest, then walk over to them and introduce yourself. If you do that, you would have done 50% of the work. Now that the hard part is done, all you have to do is be as funny as Jim Carrey, as charming as Prince Charming, and as successful as Donald Trump. Good luck.