my gawd, newsweek article needs setting straight.

[howstrange]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151730

...That daydream got a cold bath during the torch relay this spring, when furious Chinese students in the West showed they could be even more jingoistic than Chinese who had never left home—and good luck to anyone who dared buck the trend...

...China has a long tradition of chauvinism, and for some sea turtles, intimate acquaintance with Western attitudes has only intensified their feelings of defensiveness. Author and business consultant Jim MacGregor, who deals frequently with hai gui, says, "The richest people here are the most anti-Western." Even as they sip cappuccino at Starbucks or show off their new Buicks, the last thing most want is to make over their homeland in the West's image....

The article is written by an AF no less..:(


I really don't know what to make of this article, it just rubs me wrong even though I'm not even Chinese. Well there's a comment section, if anyone wants to add a touch of 44.

[wuwei]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151730

...That daydream got a cold bath during the torch relay this spring, when furious Chinese students in the West showed they could be even more jingoistic than Chinese who had never left home—and good luck to anyone who dared buck the trend...

...China has a long tradition of chauvinism, and for some sea turtles, intimate acquaintance with Western attitudes has only intensified their feelings of defensiveness. Author and business consultant Jim MacGregor, who deals frequently with hai gui, says, "The richest people here are the most anti-Western." Even as they sip cappuccino at Starbucks or show off their new Buicks, the last thing most want is to make over their homeland in the West's image....

The article is written by an AF no less..:(


I really don't know what to make of this article, it just rubs me wrong even though I'm not even Chinese. Well there's a comment section, if anyone wants to add a touch of 44.


This article is very astute, and 100% true.

The Chinese that are exposed to Western culture no longer have an idealistic view of it, and they also fully understand the West's bias toward China and people of Chinese descent, so why wouldnt they be even more "anti-Western" than Chinese who have never been abroad?

[RebelAzn]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151730

...That daydream got a cold bath during the torch relay this spring, when furious Chinese students in the West showed they could be even more jingoistic than Chinese who had never left home—and good luck to anyone who dared buck the trend...

...China has a long tradition of chauvinism, and for some sea turtles, intimate acquaintance with Western attitudes has only intensified their feelings of defensiveness. Author and business consultant Jim MacGregor, who deals frequently with hai gui, says, "The richest people here are the most anti-Western." Even as they sip cappuccino at Starbucks or show off their new Buicks, the last thing most want is to make over their homeland in the West's image....

The article is written by an AF no less..:(


I really don't know what to make of this article, it just rubs me wrong even though I'm not even Chinese. Well there's a comment section, if anyone wants to add a touch of 44.


Good article. I do agree with it as well. When Chinese aboard experience the bias and ignorant views of many westerners, many become even more nationalistic. The problem in the West is they always try to make Asians 2nd class citizen through stereotypes etc. Many Chinese are extremely proud of their culture and this undoubtedly piss them off. On top of that, many westerners have these views mainly due to ignorance and lack of knowledge. Many Chinese that grew up in China and now living in the West know there are a ton of social problems in the West for Asians. As a result of it, many feel even more tie to their culture.

Young Chinese want to see a strong China or a China returning to its former glory self. They are setting their own ways. While there are other Asian countries who look up to America, China is developing its own ways.

[howstrange]

I'm more concerned by the slant of the article. The writer seemed to be heavily biased against these "seaturtles" and her citations and interviews seem objectively disingenuous. Or maybe it's just the article itself, like who gives a fuck about what seaturtles think and why is it worth an article in newsweek? All it does is serve into the anti-immigrant heatwave and perpetual foreigner stereotypes. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, I read the article fully plastered on a bottle of sake.

[RebelAzn]

I'm more concerned by the slant of the article. The writer seemed to be heavily biased against these "seaturtles" and her citations and interviews seem objectively disingenuous. Or maybe it's just the article itself, like who gives a fuck about what seaturtles think and why is it worth an article in newsweek? All it does is serve into the anti-immigrant heatwave and perpetual foreigner stereotypes. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, I read the article fully plastered on a bottle of sake.

This is one of the issue in China. People that never been exposed to the West other than via Hollywood have a unrealistic view of the West. People that actually been here seen many issues with the West. In many ways, they seen all the racial issues we Asian Americans see yet they don't have the white brainwashing most Asian Americans have been exposed since birth. Many of them are now realizing there are far more opportunities in China vs. the USA. In the USA, many of them realize the fact they are Chinese means they have to face discrimination, ugly stereotypes and glass ceilings. Trust me, many of them see all the ugly Asian stereotypes in Hollywood. Stuff that are bias against Asian Americans like emasculation of Asian men and constant unbalanced images of WM/AF in Hollywood get noticed too. As a result, many are convinced going West is not the answer since you won't be treated fairly here because of the white supremacy and institutionalized racism here.

[howstrange]

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Yeah, I totally understand that. Someone actually commented something similar and the writer brought up Yo Yo MA, Yao Ming, and Jackie Chan, as examples of the American Media not being racist against asians. EDIT Crap nevermind, it wasn't the columnist, but someone else.. as I said I was plastered.

[RebelAzn]

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Yeah, I totally understand that. Someone actually commented something similar and the writer brought up Yo Yo MA, Yao Ming, and Jackie Chan, as examples of the American Media not being racist against asians. EDIT Crap nevermind, it wasn't the columnist, but someone else.. as I said I was plastered.

American media is not racist against Asian men as long as they are stereotyped as asexual, kung fu master, Chinese food delivery or something along those line. Yo Yo Ma and Yao Ming are not actors, so they have to be valued as just people. Yao Ming is funny, witty, passionate and he is good at basketball. He is nothing like the typical stereotype of Asian men other than he is hardworking and he loves his country. He is what Chinese would call a model Chinese in that he has a lot of pride in China despite making millions. Most Americans don't have a clue what impact all these constant negative stereotypes are doing to the Asian American youth and community.

I have mixed feelings about rise of Chinese pride would do to Asian Americans. America does have an ugly history of turn on minorities based on race (Japanese Intern camp, Chinese Exclusion Act etc.). Some American might accept this new fact and acknowledge China as the world power. Some might turn to racism to hold on to their white is right hierarchy they have been pimping everyday. China gonna set her own course regardless of what Americans think nor do they care.

[uRB4N]

I agree with Howstrange.

When I read through that, it seemed to place negativity on the side of the Chinese while letting the West off as if the West was doing nothing wrong.

[RebelAzn]

I agree with Howstrange.

When I read through that, it seemed to place negativity on the side of the Chinese while letting the West off as if the West was doing nothing wrong.

It would have been more balanced if the article point out why they feel that way. Most of us know but the article did not explain it well enough.