Yul Kwon on Fallout Central Podcast

[Vahz]

It was interesting listening to him on his experiences on Survivor and his work in the Asian American community.

He brought up two points which is very interesting:

1.) Asian American men must submit and conform to what Americans find impressive or masculine.

2.) Asian American men must shape and do the defining of what masculinity is.

Though #2 is less plausible, I seem to agree with his assessment of #1.

It's equally impressive that 6 months before the airing of Survivor, he busted his ass and worked out simply because he knew he was going to be watched by millions. Truly someone Asian American men should emulate.

[RebelAzn]

1.) Asian American men must submit and conform to what Americans find impressive or masculine.


He is right. If the main stream is looking at a muscular man as attractive, then get your ass out there and work out. The problem with too many Asian men (including many here) are letting this society defining who they are and all they do is whine. I absolutely refuse to believe I am the same as every other Asian man. I like to think I am unique and an individual. Keep in mind you have total control over your life and no one else does. You have to define who you are and let the stereotypes and mass media do it for you. Confidence comes within, not from positive or negative stereotypes. Society is trying to put you into a bucket to stereotype you, it is your job to prove them wrong. We all need to find the stereotypes but it would tragic if you let it define who you are. If that's the case, then all the racists got what they wanted in the first place. One more thing is stay the hell away from negative assholes who will do nothing but bring you down.


2.) Asian American men must shape and do the defining of what masculinity is.

This one I am assuming he means we need to stand up and be a man. Basically, be a leader and speak up. Remember it is the size of the dog but the fight in the dog. Even if you are a small person, you can make a difference if you have confidence.

Yul, btw, is the man. I watched Survivor because of him. He is doing a lot and he is well-spoken. We certainly need more guys like him in the media.

[Vahz]

Yul has replaced Ghandi as my new non-related hero. The guys from Fallout Central are right though, Yul is indeed one of the best, if not best, thing every to happen to Asian America in recent memory.

What's amazing is that it hasn't gotten to his head yet. He's still as humble as ever.

Let's see, if we want to bring Asian women into the fold, we should just emulate him.

1.) Smart
2.) Outgoing
3.) Articulate
4.) Buff and ripped
5.) Humble
6.) Caring
7.) Charitable
8.) Charismatic
9.) Patient
10.) Rational

Time for Asian guys everywhere to get started.

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[Synthetic]

I'm not quite sure why this is anything special. living in America, is it not obvious what the media wants? has it not been obvious that more muscular, more outgoing men are viewed at in higher regard?

asian guys couldn't figure this one out on their own? i have a feeling if a white guy said this is what asian guys needs to do, it'd be some big racist fiasco, but since yul said it, it must be religious doctrine?

if what yul said actually motivates any asian guys to start working out simply because he said it, man...that's just sad.

[Vahz]

Well, I've always believed this mantra since the beginning but Yul just seemed to say what many others were thinking. You'd be surprised. There were so many people that seemed it was the first time this idea entered in their heads when he was speaking at the Asian American men's conference.

In short, he believes that Asian men must change.

[kwak76]

I seen buff looking asian guys driving nice cars here in NYC. I think Asian guys know what looks good and has an idea in what women like.
Some of the best dressers I seen are Asian men with their Acura's or BMW all in thier 20-30's. I seen and met Asian guys who have good job or own thier own business and have higher income than some average white boy.

So I don't think it's that Asian men are not shaping up..hell I think for some Asian men we are overachievers. Sure there are some Asian men who look like dweeps but fuck you got white guys who look like dweeps.

Allot of the problem is people perception of Asian men. It's kind of like the same problem with black men. You could have a college educated black man walk into a room but for some people they may assume otherwise.

I think what Yul meant by 2.) Asian American men must shape and do the defining of what masculinity is that Asian men has to re-define what masculinity means. You have to understand every culture has a different meaning in what it means to be masculine.

We have to take ownership of it instead of being defined by others. I really think allot of Asian men are doing 1. by following the standards which is what we must do to get by but I think Asian men will always be judge in a different light.

Statement 2.) Asian American men must shape and do the defining of what masculinity is ..means that we have to define who we are and what Asian masculinity means.

The biggest difference between black men and Asian men is that black men OWNS statement 2. Black men through black culture was able to redefine masculinity. You have white boys who act black or want to be black because they think it is cool.

In reality the average Asian men income is doing better than the average black man. When it comes to family co-hesion ..the average Asian man is doing better than the average black guy. Same with education. So in other words in paper at least the average Asian men would make a better and stable provider but American culture does not view a men that way any longer.

Now we all have exception but why is it that black men are viewed as more masculine than Asian men because American culture is base upon a superficial standard.

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I'm not quite sure why this is anything special. living in America, is it not obvious what the media wants? has it not been obvious that more muscular, more outgoing men are viewed at in higher regard?

asian guys couldn't figure this one out on their own? i have a feeling if a white guy said this is what asian guys needs to do, it'd be some big racist fiasco, but since yul said it, it must be religious doctrine?

if what yul said actually motivates any asian guys to start working out simply because he said it, man...that's just sad.

This guy gets it. Everyone else not so much.