When is kicking someone's ass for Racism okay?

[AcousticDoc]

Alright so my roomate that's been assigned to me in the dorms constantly belittles and makes Asian jokes which I have continually told him to stop doing. Earlier in the semester I threatened him with going to the Residency Director in which he practically begged me not to do. I felt sorry for him and decided not to pursue it. Yet he continues again. If I just punch him once will I be okay legally?

[atlasien]

Headbutting is more effective as a surprise move.

In all seriousness you are NOT legally OK with hitting him UNLESS he threatens you with physical violence first.

Go to the residency director and demand he be removed. Tell your roommate he has 5 minutes to get his stuff and get out of your room. If he does not do it, make his life a living hell using any means you cannot be legally prosecuted for. I suggest immediately peeing on his bed.

[Dimeron]

Alright so my roomate that's been assigned to me in the dorms constantly belittles and makes Asian jokes which I have continually told him to stop doing. Earlier in the semester I threatened him with going to the Residency Director in which he practically begged me not to do. I felt sorry for him and decided not to pursue it. Yet he continues again. If I just punch him once will I be okay legally?

Go tell the RD, also if you can, get some tape recording of his racist behaviors. The RD should move him. If he doesn't, contact any of the Asian association on campus.

[cattygurl]

Go to the RD. Get in his face. I would get a new roomie, hell or high water.
I would, however, avoid a physical altercation because that could escalate. He could press assault charges and that could end up with YOU getting kicked out of school, having a police record, etc.

[kimtae]

I'm not sure what to say in your specific case, but in general it's always okay if you can do it without a trip to the cop shop ;)

[kwak76]

There have been two time at work where I confronted my co-workers . One time it was this jewish dumbass that I mentioned on my other threads who has an asian fetish.

He was making one joke too many so I tackled him and wrestled him to the floor. He got me in a head lock but I was able to pick him up and slam him on the floor. One of the manager came in and told us to break it up. Anyway after that incident he was kind of quiet around me. Why didn't I punch him? Well, if I just straight up punch him I was afriad I might get fired. I just wanted to hold him down or send him a message that you do again I'm going to do something to you.

he used to make asian jokes or make fun of my name . Now he doesn't . Not around me at least.

Another time it was another co-worker. This time it was because he was lazy. I asked him to do something and he talked back to me. I pushed him against the wall and he grabbed me. We wrestled a little bit and I was about to trip him so he could be on the floor. anyway other guys broked it up.

after that incident he was quiet around me and did his work around me.

what did this teach me? Even at work well you think everyone is a profressional some people listern to FORCE than being nice.


If that dudes keeps making asian jokes and it is getting annoying either beat him up or do something crazy.

You could get a large hammer and smash his TV or something or get a bunch big asian guys to pick him up and chuck him across the street.

For some people being asking nicely does not work.

you just got to be a dickhead sometimes and treat them like one. It seems like that is all they understand.

[RebelAzn]

If I was younger, there probably been a brawl already. I would probably have beat the crap out of him or get beaten up myself. I would just get straight up in his face and challenge him to a fight. Even if you lose, he probably won't mess with you again. He does it cause he knows he can get away with it so don't let him get away with it.

Now I am older, I would suggest you talk to your RD. I doubt that would solve the problem. If you know some big Asian dudes, bring him to your dorm when he is there. Let him know he gonna get his ass beat down if he mess with Asians again.

Bottom line it is all about respect and obviously this kid needs a lesson in that department.

[theme]

Alright so my roomate that's been assigned to me in the dorms constantly belittles and makes Asian jokes which I have continually told him to stop doing. Earlier in the semester I threatened him with going to the Residency Director in which he practically begged me not to do. I felt sorry for him and decided not to pursue it. Yet he continues again. If I just punch him once will I be okay legally?

I'm assuming he's bigger than you and more intimidating than you or otherwise he would be too scared to make fun of Asians, so therefore, my advice is based on the fact that I don't want him to snap you in half-go tell the RD.

Yes, I'm pretty sure this will look bad on Asian guys as word will get around that Asian guys can't settle their own problems. But for your sake, go tell on him.

[Vahz]

There have been two time at work where I confronted my co-workers . One time it was this jewish dumbass that I mentioned on my other threads who has an asian fetish.

He was making one joke too many so I tackled him and wrestled him to the floor. He got me in a head lock but I was able to pick him up and slam him on the floor. One of the manager came in and told us to break it up. Anyway after that incident he was kind of quiet around me. Why didn't I punch him? Well, if I just straight up punch him I was afriad I might get fired. I just wanted to hold him down or send him a message that you do again I'm going to do something to you.

he used to make asian jokes or make fun of my name . Now he doesn't . Not around me at least.

Another time it was another co-worker. This time it was because he was lazy. I asked him to do something and he talked back to me. I pushed him against the wall and he grabbed me. We wrestled a little bit and I was about to trip him so he could be on the floor. anyway other guys broked it up.

after that incident he was quiet around me and did his work around me.

what did this teach me? Even at work well you think everyone is a profressional some people listern to FORCE than being nice.


If that dudes keeps making asian jokes and it is getting annoying either beat him up or do something crazy.

You could get a large hammer and smash his TV or something or get a bunch big asian guys to pick him up and chuck him across the street.

For some people being asking nicely does not work.

you just got to be a dickhead sometimes and treat them like one. It seems like that is all they understand.

Where the hell do you work where you can wrestle others and have racial jokes tolerated?

[AcousticDoc]

I'm assuming he's bigger than you and more intimidating than you or otherwise he would be too scared to make fun of Asians, so therefore, my advice is based on the fact that I don't want him to snap you in half-go tell the RD.

Not at all, I'm stronger and bigger than he is. He told me he doesn't care what he says to asian guys because they are pussies. I asked him if he would say the same shit to a black person and he stated no because blacks would kick a persons ass.

[Vahz]

Not at all, I'm stronger and bigger than he is. He told me he doesn't care what he says to asian guys because they are pussies. I asked him if he would say the same shit to a black person and he stated no because blacks would kick a persons ass.

I would have punched him in the face right there.

[RebelAzn]

Not at all, I'm stronger and bigger than he is. He told me he doesn't care what he says to asian guys because they are pussies. I asked him if he would say the same shit to a black person and he stated no because blacks would kick a persons ass.

I can't believe you are still here on a message board asking what to do. It is so freaking obvious what you need to do.

[cattygurl]

Well, if you are clearly bigger, that would make he assault charge stick more should the jerk-off choose to file one. AD, I don't wanna see you get kicked out of college or end up with a record, because that will hurt YOU in the long run. If you feel you can smack the guy once and not end up with an assault charge, get kicked out of college, or a trip to the police station, sure.

I would tell the RD and bring it further if you have to, because I've seen assault records come to kick people in the ass (with job applications, with divorce proceedings, etc). I'd avoid that possibility as much as I can.

[cattygurl]

when YTs say "blacks," they only mean Blacks that look a certain type. I've got a black friend that looked more like mos def- skinny, not tall, a little geeky- and it was shit parade for the dude in terms of people feeling like people can take out their fear of the black man on this poor fella.

[theme]

Not at all, I'm stronger and bigger than he is. He told me he doesn't care what he says to asian guys because they are pussies. I asked him if he would say the same shit to a black person and he stated no because blacks would kick a persons ass.

You ASKED him if he would do the same thing to a black person?

WHY?

WHY OH WHY? Does that even matter?

Is that suppose to make him feel bad?

My god.
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And the reason why complain about White people, Asian women, Asians, Black people, Conservatives, Liberals, Bush, Cheney, Terrorists, Christians, Muslims, Indians, Satan, Kobe Bryant, David Beckham...etc.

is WHY again? Just look at yourselves.

[Lum]

All aboard the tough-guy train.

Seriously, you already threatened him with going to the RD. Real men keep their promises.

[RebelAzn]

Well, if you are clearly bigger, that would make he assault charge stick more should the jerk-off choose to file one. AD, I don't wanna see you get kicked out of college or end up with a record, because that will hurt YOU in the long run. If you feel you can smack the guy once and not end up with an assault charge, get kicked out of college, or a trip to the police station, sure.

I would tell the RD and bring it further if you have to, because I've seen assault records come to kick people in the ass (with job applications, with divorce proceedings, etc). I'd avoid that possibility as much as I can.

Cattygirl - There are other ways around this. If the guy throws the first punch, then it is self defense. I am sure there are things anyone can say to piss this guy off. Just make sure it is self defense and then you have the right to defend yourself.

[cattygurl]

AD, keep your word and go to the RA.

Square this away with the RA, adn take it further if you need to.

You know what? People lie all the time, and if enough people lie or don't speak up, you're down shit river- for an asshole, no less. So he hits you first? You think he might lie about that? What if you have no witnesses? What if you do but they're on his side? Then what? I've seen that kind of shit go down. Does he have connections? Do you end up having to pack your bags and find another college while the asshole gets off because his family has friends?

Lum is right- keep your word and go to the RA, pronto.

So the guy throws a first punch, and you swing too wide and hit the wrong spot, causing more damage than you ever thought. The guy falls the wrong way and cracks his skull open. You think it doesn't happen? Self defense can become manslaughter in a new york minute. I've seen it happen. Also, the civil suits that people can raise if you accidentally hurt someone bad can ruin your life. I've seen 2 people that screwed themselves up this way over worthless shit. One was successfully sued to fucking hell over dumbass fight. Another went into the clinker for a few years for manslaughter.

The tough guy act is all fine and dandy until you have a lawsuit that will fuck you over for he rest of your life, a record keeping you from a job, or fucking you over in other ways. It's easy to say "fuck the asshole! Give him a beating!" from the safety of your keyboard. If something shitty comes as a result of it, AD is the one that gets fucked over- not you or me or anyone else.

It's irresponsible to suggest violence when there's clearly a better way out of it, which there is at this point. Taking the violent path when there's a clear alternative is called stupidity- pure and simple. There's no way around it.

There's one thing and one thing that's clear- if the worst case scenario isn't something you're interested in facing up to, then don't do it. The chances of the worst case scenario might be small- but if it happens, is it really worth it? I've spent a good part of my college days working bars and nightclubs. Nothing makes me sicker than backseat inciting when you won't have to live with the consequences and it somehow makes guys feel *good* to tell other people to kick ass.

Ad going to the RD IS doing something. Pursue that route first, leave the dumbass fighting to the kids.

[theme]

Guy, you see the perfectly sane and rational advice that is being given in the above post?

Don't be fooled! Knock the Muthafucka OUT.

[Lum]

Guy, you see the perfectly sane and rational advice that is being given in the above post?

Don't be fooled! Knock the Muthafucka OUT.

Gimme a break. The dude is obviously trying to get Acoustic kicked out of the room. He probably has some weed-growing buddy wanting to move in. If Acoustic goes through the proper channels and wins, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy stopped the racism act altogether.

[DONKEY]

i dont understand. you cant choose your roommate? you got assigned one?
is it a military school or something?

[Ike]

Lots of colleges assign a roommate 1st semester.

[kimtae]

Provoke him the next time, get in his face, taunt him, call him names and make him throw the first shot then work him into the ground. Don't post again until you've taken care of business.

[kwak76]

Just kick his ass .

Shit if someone said that asian men don't fight back and we are pussies that's crossing the line.

[KHANartist]

Alright so my roomate that's been assigned to me in the dorms constantly belittles and makes Asian jokes which I have continually told him to stop doing. Earlier in the semester I threatened him with going to the Residency Director in which he practically begged me not to do. I felt sorry for him and decided not to pursue it. Yet he continues again. If I just punch him once will I be okay legally?

You know what needs to be done. I once had an older Chinese guy where I worked making derogatory comments about "Pakis". I`m nearly twice his side but he mistakenly believed I wouldn`t beat him up because he was 25 years older than me. Man was he wrong.

[kimtae]

I can't believe I'm going to do this but here goes.
Acoustic, you were obviously never a high school bully. You say you're pretty big so I'm going to guess you were never really physically bullied. I'm going to tell you some things that would get me kicked out of the Malevolent Order of Sports Enthusiasts (Jocks) or MOOSE. I spent a lot of time making life hellish for a lot of nerds and geeks. I blame high school wrestling and mom for taking us off Tang and giving us a steady diet of Nestle Quik for breakfast. The sugar made me do it. I actually reformed myself in my senior year and joined the drama club and made friends with many of my former victims but in the first three years of high school, sophomore year especially, I left a trail of wedgies, swirlies, purple nurples, and Indian sunburns that would have made Nelson proud:
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I suggest you go the bait and switch bully route. It's easy to taunt someone into throwing the first shot. Once that's done, you have a free license to stomp him into mush. These are all terrible things (but not all the terrible things) I have done to people who are probably now in therapy.
Here are the tools of the trade.
1. The back heel trip - everytime he walks in front of you, kick his back heel so it catches on his other foot and makes him trip.
2. Gimme five - whenever he has a stack of books in his hands, slap them out of his hands.
3. High five - whenever he's sitting with his back to you, slap him in the back of the head. Then claim it wan't you even though you're the only two there. He didn't see it after all, did he?
4. Twister - take all his underwear and tie them into knots. Make sure you get them wet so they won't come undone. I suggest you go commando so he won't be able to exact the same revenge. Underwear is for suckers anyway.
5. Sleep mask - Now that you're no longer wearing underwear, make sure he wakes up every morning with a pair of your old underwear on his face. Then claim it wasn't you since you don't wear underwear.
6. Poster boy - stick signs on his back declaring his love for sheep. Do this in a crowded bar where people are drunk for best effect.
7. Shortstop - Everytime he is walking behind you, stop suddenly, then turn around and call him an ass for pushing you.
8. Wet dreams - A true classic, warm water in his bed as he sleeps and photos to share with the rest of your dormmates.
To make this work keep a grin on your face at all times and remember, plausible deniability is everything. At some point he will snap and take a shot at you. Be prepared.

[kimtae]

You know what needs to be done. I once had an older Chinese guy where I worked making derogatory comments about "Pakis". I`m nearly twice his side but he mistakenly believed I wouldn`t beat him up because he was 25 years older than me. Man was he wrong.

And if it had been a white guy? You probably would have introduced him to your sister.

[KHANartist]

And if it had been a white guy? You probably would have introduced him to your sister.

No, I would`ve ripped him apart and then introduced him to your sister.

[Vahz]

Good one, chief.

[kimtae]

No, I would`ve ripped him apart and then introduced him to your sister.

Don't be coy, we've all seen how you love to play the white man's apologist, you'd be honored to have one up your sister's skirt. I think Bigbossman is looking for a date. Send him a PM.

[KHANartist]

Don't be coy, we've all seen how you love to play the white man's apologist, you'd be honored to have one up your sister's skirt. I think Bigbossman is looking for a date. Send him a PM.

You have an unhealthy interest in my sister`s private lives. Perhaps it`s because you want to get to know them yourself. Well, at least it`s something to peel your nose off from your sister`s bedroom window, so that some Desi/black/white guys can stick their heads up your sister`s skirts without your prying eyes interfering.

[kimtae]

You have an unhealthy interest in my sister`s private lives. Perhaps it`s because you want to get to know them yourself. Well, at least it`s something to peel your nose off from your sister`s bedroom window, so that some Desi/black/white guys can stick their heads up your sister`s skirts without your prying eyes interfering.
Go run back to your white masters, dog.

[KHANartist]

Go run back to your white masters, dog.
There`s an intelligent rebuttal. You really have white people on the brain don`t you? Your jealousy is so apparent. You really do want to be white. I think I will go find some of my Desi/black/white mates. Then we`ll come back and have some fun with your sisters/mother and any other female relatives that you spy on.

[Scowl]

Methinks it may be time to move this here thread to you-know-where.