Are women just as shallow?

[Vahz]

A friend of mine who's 5'6" rarely gets noticed, if ever, by women on the street. Sure, female friends refer to him as cute but he doesn't turn heads when walking around on the street.

That is, until he jogs around down. With his shirt off. Once women see his body, they always stare. He has made 2 women walking into a light pole once.

So, my question is, does having a great body actually make a man just as attractive as someone with a decent personality? Also, should he be concerned with women that just talk to him *after* they notice that he's built like a god? Objectification, if you will.

As guys, I doubt any would complain but are women who are concerned with something like this the same types of women that will actually look to be a girlfriend or they just see you as a fling?

[Scowl]

So, my question is, does having a great body actually make a man just as attractive as someone with a decent personality?

I'm always immensely amused by the "question for the ladies" threads. Maybe it's because of guys like bigassman07, or maybe it's because you'll get ripped a new asshole if you ask a dumb question (and most people do). Maybe it's both.

Anyway, the only thing I'd like to throw out is that you can't see a good personality. You can't say that one is a replacement for the other, only that it's easier to notice one over the other. If he was turning heads while walking down the street without taking his shirt off, would that make the women looking at him any less shallow? Also, you are assuming that women who look at him want to hump him. Haven't you ever admired the body of a butterface without ever having any desire to get with her?

As guys, I doubt any would complain but are women who are concerned with something like this the same types of women that will actually look to be a girlfriend or they just see you as a fling?

Well, look at it this way - if you see a physically attractive woman, do you want to make her a girlfriend or a fling?

[Candide]

Do you notice that people often give a hell lot of extra personality points to good-looking folks, while taking away the same amount from the unfortunate uglies?

[ellencho]

I'm always immensely amused by the "question for the ladies" threads. Maybe it's because of guys like bigassman07, or maybe it's because you'll get ripped a new asshole if you ask a dumb question (and most people do). Maybe it's both.


I've found that when there's a question for the 44s women thread, it's almost always started by a member who the general population of the 44s women find to be repellant in some way.

[Vahz]

Not I. :)

I can see what you mean though but just wanted an honest answer since all the girls I know aren't really honest about something like this.

Candide helped promote the type of question I *should* be asking.

[atlasien]

Hehe Ellen, these questions usually come in two flavors: 1) veiled rhetorical questions designed to trigger complaining sessions about the mean bad womenz and 2) "just help me get laid dammit"

The best advice on the subject I ever heard works equally well for men and women. It was introduced to me as "three magic words that will make sure you have sex every single night you want it." Again, they work for everyone. Straight, gay, man, woman, vegetable. They are very simple. The magic words are...

LOWER. YOUR. STANDARDS

[Ike]

Yes, women are just as shallow.

[Hater Depot]

Sweet! I knew it!

[Ike]

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[RebelAzn]

Most women are definitely shallow. I am pretty sure most women make up their mind whether they want to date a man or not within the 1st 30 secs of meeting a man. First impression counts. Of course, some women have said some guys can grow on them if they are not initially attracted.

[theme]

A friend of mine who's 5'6" rarely gets noticed, if ever, by women on the street. Sure, female friends refer to him as cute but he doesn't turn heads when walking around on the street.

That is, until he jogs around down. With his shirt off. Once women see his body, they always stare. He has made 2 women walking into a light pole once.

So, my question is, does having a great body actually make a man just as attractive as someone with a decent personality? Also, should he be concerned with women that just talk to him *after* they notice that he's built like a god? Objectification, if you will.

As guys, I doubt any would complain but are women who are concerned with something like this the same types of women that will actually look to be a girlfriend or they just see you as a fling?

Just because a woman stares doesn't mean that she would date him. I have a friend who is a part time model and when we go to the beach in the summer he gets stares from women but also looks of admiration from men-but it doesn't mean that any of these women or men would date him.

As for your question, I've seen attractive women with all sorts of uglies so I don't know.

[Ike]

Those uglies are rich.

[Hadouken]

Just because a woman stares doesn't mean that she would date him. I have a friend who is a part time model and when we go to the beach in the summer he gets stares from women but also looks of admiration from men-but it doesn't mean that any of these women or men would date him.

As for your question, I've seen attractive women with all sorts of uglies so I don't know.

All true. While everyone appreciates beauty, most marry within their "range". You won't see too many physical attractiveness disparities in couples, unless the uglier one has something else to balance it out, like money, fame, exceptional personality (gotta throw in that last one. Hey, there's gotta be some hope.).

[Hadouken]

A friend of mine who's 5'6" rarely gets noticed, if ever, by women on the street. Sure, female friends refer to him as cute but he doesn't turn heads when walking around on the street.

That is, until he jogs around down. With his shirt off. Once women see his body, they always stare. He has made 2 women walking into a light pole once.

So, my question is, does having a great body actually make a man just as attractive as someone with a decent personality? Also, should he be concerned with women that just talk to him *after* they notice that he's built like a god? Objectification, if you will.

As guys, I doubt any would complain but are women who are concerned with something like this the same types of women that will actually look to be a girlfriend or they just see you as a fling?


I think you already know the answer to this. Everyone is superficial. As an example, it's a statistical fact that beautiful people make more money on average than uglier ones. Tall people also make more money than short, slim people make more money than fat people, etc. It's the way of the world. Women may have different standards than men, but they have standards nontheless.

[Dirac]

What is 'shallow' about finding a good-looking person good-looking? The women looking at him on the street don't even know him, it's not like they have anything else to go on. Are women shallow? Well, as the officially appointed spokesperson of all women I would like to say "some of 'em."

[maogirl]

i'm more shallow than most guys i know. you know how you have the "eyes of death" in death note where the person who possesses those eyes can see someone's real name and lifespan? i've got "eyes of money" which allows me to see someone's real net worth and potential earning ability.

[maogirl]

oh, oops, are we only talking about looks? damn, i'm not myself today. waiting at the fucking airport, delayed flight again and i haven't eaten and i had to spend all day looking for shoes for my parents' dogs. fuck my life.

[Vahz]

MG, I love your blog. Especially the post about the 4 different types of braindamaged Asian Americans. Well, one of your friends wrote it.

Great laugh.