Penis discussion

[RebelAzn]

Ok I know this is probably a sensitive topic for all men in general, but I think we need to address this. The media is relentless in bashing Asian men and creating negative stereotypes. The recent JV & Elvis DJs from CBS made references to "tiny egg roll" reference. The reality is men from all races have big and small penises and everything in between. I am sure most Asian men have to listen to these stereotypes numerous times while growing up. The goal here is discuss this and be happy with whatever you got.

Here is a video about penis length that was a big hit at Sundance a few years ago: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Is5QvzS0RK8

Next time a white guy who is using the small penis joke, you might want to show him this video:

http://www.boreme.com/boremerigid/funny-2006/howard-stern-tiny-penis-p1.php
[Warning: don't click on this if you are offended by naked men videos or if you are under 18]

[JFC]

Why are you even bothering with this? It's scientific fact that the average Asian has the smallest penis out of all ethnic groups.

[Lum]

Okayy who let the troll in?

[JFC]

Okayy who let the troll in?

Alright sorry. I registered last week and haven't posted, so please don't think I just signed up to berate Asian men. The point is, Asians need to just accept the fact that they ON AVERAGE have the smallest pensies but that doesn't really mean anything. Most of the mental turmoil seems to come from Asians who can't seem to accept this fact and rumage on and on in their head about the media saying they have small penises and etc etc when it would be best for them to just accept and move on with their lives.

[Lum]

Ah, no biggie. I see your point, but even if the Asian penis is statistically smaller doesn't mean shock-jocks should be allowed to deride us publicly. Also I think Rebel's post could be beneficial to the younguns out there who may be more sensitive to all the race-bashing that's been going on lately. But if y'all start breaking out the rulers I'm outta here.

That said, my egg-roll is just fine thank you.

[Makulita]

Hmm... you know, since I don't have a penis I can't really say anything other than this:

Proven or not they're small at least they work. I mean, compared to men of other races white boys probably got it the hardest since they seem to have so many things wrong with their dicks. They can't get it up, their dinkie doodle is prone to cancer, their urethra looks like a roller coaster, or their sperm count's low.

I mean, ON AVERAGE its usually white boys in those Erectile Dysfunction commercials, isn't it? Poor boys, they have my pity and my heart goes out to them.

My pussy stays in my pants however.

EDIT: Since SOMEONE's gotten all uppity, I'll just disclaimer this "cheap shot" in response that JFC is just saying that the average asian man has the smaller penis size. When JFC here bedazzles us with some statistical proof, then I'll shut the fuck up. Hell, I might even apologize. That's a big-ass maybe though.

[RebelAzn]

Alright sorry. I registered last week and haven't posted, so please don't think I just signed up to berate Asian men. The point is, Asians need to just accept the fact that they ON AVERAGE have the smallest pensies but that doesn't really mean anything. Most of the mental turmoil seems to come from Asians who can't seem to accept this fact and rumage on and on in their head about the media saying they have small penises and etc etc when it would be best for them to just accept and move on with their lives.

My whole point of bringing this up is the point out the hypocrisy of the stereotype.

And Lum is right, I brought this topic up for the benefits of the youngons here. Due to the media in this country, men of all races in this country are overly obsessed with penis sizes while most women are not. It is part of growing up Asian American in this country whether you like it or not. Most people in most other countries don't seem nearly as obsessed as people here. Nevertheless, it is part of most young men's fragile self esteem growing up in America.

Obviously I am fine with my egg roll or I won't even brought this topic in the first place.

The whole point is sizes of the penis is like a bell curve for all the races and it overlaps a lot. By stating all Asians have smaller penises just show ignorance on your part. I am sure if I am an Asian guy with a big penis I won't want to hear this stereotype day in and day out. If you are a guy with a small penis, then accept the stereotype for yourself but please don't pass the label onto everyone else who is Asian.

The point I want to make for this discussion is each of us just want to be judged as an individual vs. get lumped into the entire group via a stereotype. Also, I am hardly promoting size of the penis has anything to do with how successful a person is in a relationship. It does not and thats another point I hope people will realize.

[Le Sheng Liu]

Hhahahaha I was just having this discussion with a white female friend (who fucking hot and is married to and having a baby with a Filipino guy) that big cocks are worse than small cocks. I mean if you have a ten incher, what girl would let you fucker her? I mean cum on, that shit would hurt!!!! On top of that, no mouth could ever fit to give you a proper blowjob.

Who cares what the media says? I'll keep my Asian penis, thank you.

[SamuraiJack]

Alright sorry. I registered last week and haven't posted, so please don't think I just signed up to berate Asian men. The point is, Asians need to just accept the fact that they ON AVERAGE have the smallest pensies but that doesn't really mean anything. Most of the mental turmoil seems to come from Asians who can't seem to accept this fact and rumage on and on in their head about the media saying they have small penises and etc etc when it would be best for them to just accept and move on with their lives.

Are you white or something?

Statistically speaking, Asians are shorter than other races, but that has to do with diet. Statistically speaking, taller men have bigger penises.

Therefore, it has nothing to do with Asians, but has to do with height, which has to do with diet.

Take your misguided stereotypes elsewhere.

[AZN MAN]

Oh Christ ... if you men have a problem with your length and how women perceive you, you need to come talk to me. Women don't think like men, so stop obsessing over your "inadequacies" regarding length.

In general, a male's optimum size for a woman is not 6", 7", 8", etc.; it's between 3 1/4" and 3 1/2". Okay?

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/SDC/SDC177/224154SDC.jpg

[Candide]

Every single penis "research" (aka horseshit with very vague figures) has been conducted by white men, AFAIK. So is every "erection problem?" ad. Says a lot about their insecurity. :D

[RebelAzn]

Every single penis "research" (aka horseshit with very vague figures) has been conducted by white men, AFAIK. So is every "erection problem?" ad. Says a lot about their insecurity. :D

Exactly. All those late night penis pill expansion infomercials are not exactly targeted towards Asian men. In the Quest for Length video it said Americans spent over $240M a year on Penis enlargement. I am almost 100% sure most of the men that did it are white men.

Genetic scientists have said there is no such thing as a race gene. A Chinese guy from china might have a lot more in common genetic wise with an Irish than with a Vietnamese person. How do you stereotype over a billion men?

I highly doubt the all those so-called penis research where they pulled 100 guys off the street or have them self report their size over the Internet. When is the last time men lied about their penis size? Seriously, Asians are so different even among themselves so how do you put all the men into one single category. Northern Chinese are very different from Southern Chinese and people from Hong Kong. Northern Chinese is also very different than Vietnamese or Filipinos.

What is definition of Asian? Does it include all the Southern Indians? I mean there are only at least 500 Million of them too.

My whole point of this stereotype is yet another one created by white men and if you really look at it scientifically, there is really no basis.

I had white girls who told me the smallest penis they ever had is a white penis and this is after she slept with a few Asian guys. Am I suppose to believe white men have the smallest penis based on their account? When is the last time a woman wiped out a ruler while you are having sex with her?

At end of the day, each man's penis size is an individual thing and no one should stereotype the Asian penis unless they have seen over 1 Billion of Asian men with a hard on :)

[Candide]

At end of the day, each man's penis size is an individual thing and no one should stereotype the Asian penis unless they have seen over 1 Billion of Asian men with a hard on :)

Apparently some of our white friends have seen that many Asian woodies to cum to such highly scientific conclusion. :D Nothing wrong with that, it's all in the name of science, of course...

[Vahz]

What's funny is that it's a male obsession with penis size. In fact, almost all the males that are infatuated with penis size are white men. Therefore, their insecurities become your insecurities and a majority of these infatuations have been influenced by America's porn addiction.

I heard that the average penis size across all races is about 5.5 inches and that the Asian penis, on average, is about 1/2 centimeter shorter so which technically true, I sincerely doubt women will raise a fuss about it.

[SamuraiJack]

I think penis size also correlates with the size of the butt of the related female. If you think about it, it would not make any sense anatomically that a 10-inch dick goes inside a small canal.

I might surmise that women with bigger booties have siblings that have bigger penises.

So in general, penis length probably correlates to physical height, and booties.

anyways, enough of this silly talk, just tell any misinformed morons out there that it correlates with height and height correlates with nutrition. End of story.

[Vahz]

Even if you do have a sub-average penis, I suggest you practice your oral sex skills.

[kwak76]

I think this is all speculation with penis size.

Your going to have black guys with small penis and black guys with big ones and this also applies to white and asian men.
People always assume that Asian are the smallest followed by white and then the biggest black men.

This is also related with female as that Asian women have the tightest vaginas , than white women and lastly black female.

Personally I don't know. You have all these so -called expert saying this and that.

There maybe an ounce a truth behind some stereotypes so it maybe true that asians are little bit smaller and that asian women have smaller openings but I don't think the size is huge difference.

[Ike]

This is a ridiculous thread. I give it 1 star. =)

[Scowl]

Therefore, their insecurities become your insecurities and a majority of these infatuations have been influenced by America's porn addiction.

Actually, I think that perhaps porn does play a large part. I won't try to guess what percentage it is, but I'm sure that a lot of guys base their opinions on Asian porn. Now, one difference I see is that non-American porn (not just Asian) doesn't have the same need to put the biggest dick available on camera. In American porn, the dick is as important as the girl, sometimes more so.

And I know that as Americans, we expect the rest of the world to operate the same way we do. We put the biggest dicks we have on camera, so the rest of the world must do the same, too. When you watch some Asian porn so you can see hot Asian girls get fucked and you see an Asian guy with a small dick, well.... that must be the biggest they've got, if that's what they're putting on camera, right? With the explosion of internet porn, there's a lot more non-professional stuff out there, so now there's a wider variety in size than there was before. However, the big dick is still king in American porn.

At my last job, there was this one Sri Lankan guy who was talking about how Chinese have the smallest cocks. When asked how he knew, he mentioned that his cousin or brother or something had a video shop, and he saw it from the foreign porn videos there. Well, that's what he meant, although he said, "I know from watching videos." What I find kind of funny is that I didn't even have to say anything, all the other guys were like, "So you like to watch videos of people's dicks? Do you have a thing for Chinese cock?" Although that was out of a dislike for the guy rather than any desire to defend Asian men, I still got a good chuckle out of that. Hell, those were supposed to be my lines.

This is a ridiculous thread. I give it 1 star. =)

Haha, it's a guy thing, you wouldn't understand! :D

[Vahz]

That pretty much sums it up, Scowl.

I'm not sure if you watched that YouTube video with Roger Fan called "The Quest for Length" but it was interesting to note that all the men that were interviewed reported that the penis mold he was passing around was labeled as "below normal" while all the women interviewed reported that the size was "normal."

Penis comparisons wasalways a male driven infatuation and, like you said, the American porn industry has alot to do with it. I also wholeheartedly agree that almost all these stereotypes stemmed from Japanese porn because the Japanese don't focus on the penis size but rather the act itself. What's also important to note that many of the Japanese female porn stars are relatively tall or equal height to the Japanese men which makes them look even smaller. Many of the American porn stars are small compared to the towering male actors so a guy that's 6'2", who was already selected because of his penis size, is going to look even more massive when paired with a girl that's 5'4".

Also, they found out that the average white penis was just 1/2 a centimeter longer than the average penis so while the stereotype is technically true, it's so pointless to worry about that 1/2 centimeter you're missing.

[RebelAzn]

Whole point of this thread is just to discuss yet another stereotype and understand it for what it is. Here are some of my comments:

1. Be happy with whatever penis you got. It is just part of you and there is nothing wrong if you got a small one or big one. Size of the penis does not define a man.

2. Men worry about their penis way more than women. Most men get penis enlargement to impress other men.

3. Most women care about how men make them feel. This means most women care more about how you romance them vs. how big your penis is. If you don't believe, go ask a woman how they think.

4. Having good sex takes a lot more than what size of a penis you got. There are many other ways to make a woman happy. Most men should try to learn how to romance women.

5. See this stereotype for what it is, a stereotype. The way to deal with it is to understand it and talk about it.

6. Accept yourself for yourself. See #1. Stereotype will not change overnight. We live in America so this is the way things are. Focus on yourself and feel proud of who you are.

I hope this will end this silly discussion.

[JjampongMania]

OMG! This is so true! As a matter of fact, I've read a study on the internet that states that although Asian males have smaller penises than males of other races, Asian males' penis erection is the STIFFEST of all male race!!!

On the other hand, white guys can brag about their salami length. But on average, their penis is FLACCID like an old rotten banana. No fun there!

I think black guys also have a bit of a flaccid penis.

Hmm... you know, since I don't have a penis I can't really say anything other than this:

Proven or not they're small at least they work. I mean, compared to men of other races white boys probably got it the hardest since they seem to have so many things wrong with their dicks. They can't get it up, their dinkie doodle is prone to cancer, their urethra looks like a roller coaster, or their sperm count's low.

I mean, ON AVERAGE its usually white boys in those Erectile Dysfunction commercials, isn't it? Poor boys, they have my pity and my heart goes out to them.

[ampha]

I think penis size also correlates with the size of the butt of the related female. If you think about it, it would not make any sense anatomically that a 10-inch dick goes inside a small canal.

So in general, penis length probably correlates to physical height, and booties.


Evolutionary biology at work. "You need a garage to park the car."

Duck genital arms race covered in the New York Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/science/01duck.html)

... derailing this thread.

[Scowl]

Evolutionary biology at work. "You need a garage to park the car."

Duck genital arms race covered in the New York Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/science/01duck.html)

... derailing this thread.

There are some really good lines in that article.

Now, how do we apply the evolution of duck genitalia to modern Asian American politics?

[kimtae]

Let me start by saying this thread is completely stupid and is reflective of a lot of individuals' feelings of insecurity. None of you know if this myth is true or not but clearly some of you are afraid it might be so you write stupid shit like this:OMG! This is so true! As a matter of fact, I've read a study on the internet that states that although Asian males have smaller penises than males of other races, Asian males' penis erection is the STIFFEST of all male race!!!

On the other hand, white guys can brag about their salami length. But on average, their penis is FLACCID like an old rotten banana. No fun there!

I think black guys also have a bit of a flaccid penis.Jjampong, since you're new here I won't tear into you too much but do try not to dumb down the site with ignorant statements like, "I've read a study on the internet that states that..." Do you have a source, can you quote a site? Are you sure it wasn't some parody site like this (http://asianworldnews.8m.com/story02.html)?
Stop worrying about your goddamn dicks. Notice none of the regular, long-time female posters have commented on this? It's because they all think you're a bunch of wankers.
Does this (http://www.gaire.com/e/f/default.asp?page=view&xid=&nav=1&parent=331545) make you feel better?
"Our conclusion is that Hong Kong people are no smaller than western men, where their penises are concerned," said Chan Lung-wai, director of the Urology Centre at the Union Hospital, who headed the study.And no, being short doesn't mean shit either"
It found that a man's height bore no relation to the length of his member, but those with higher body mass indexes, or fat content, appeared to have shorter penises.Anyone who has played sports and been in as many locker rooms as I have could have told you that. It's always the big, fat fucks who have the micro-dicks.
If you noticed, the difference between the biggest dick and the smallest dick was between 9 and 7.35 cm, a difference of 1.65 cm or the length of a lima bean. Do you really think it matters?
As for the Black myth, let's put that one to rest too, shall we?
Now, unless you have something constructive to add, like something addressing the social implications of sexual myths or the like, then I suggest you are doing nothing more than engaging in a large circle-jerk.

[sab]

Bwaahaaabwaaahhhahahahahhahahahahahhaaaa

too funny

a thread about penises

don't worry everyone, i will start taking pictures and post statisitics next time i'm in a sauna. i'm sure nobody would mind....

"excuse me sir, may i know your dimensions? i'm doing a study on penis size."

wwwwaaaaahhhahahahahahahhahahahaa

Who does these studies and WHY? How do they measure? string, ruler, tape measure. flaccid or hard, cold weather or summer heat, so many variables in this experiment. Just a moment, nobody seems to be looking in the office, let me do a quick measurement.

damn, pretty small, but it has character. damn air con. and i thought my diet was really good as i grew up plus i'm tall. shit. so much for that theory.

[RebelAzn]

Kimtae,

I started this thread just to show how silly this whole penis discussion is. Since Asian men are constantly being insulted in the American media (see latest CBS JV racist call) about our penises, I figure we should discuss and see the stereotype for what it is. It is silly because there is no way anyone can know penis sizes of everyone.

Besides, there are way more than penis size with sex. Anyone who focuses on that only will be sadly disappointed. I certainly did not expect everyone to look for every source to validate this or that. Anyway, let's move on with this.

[kimtae]

Kimtae,

I started this thread just to show how silly this whole penis discussion is.I'm sure you had the best of intentions but this shit always deteriorates sooner or later.

[Anansasem]

"Do you know the real way to touch a women?"

I've been asked that by 'White,' 'Black,' Asian, and Latino women and each time I answer something lecherous.

They almost always get me with this answer, "The real way to touch a women is in her heart."

It makes me want to snort derisively, though it's probably true.

[JjampongMania]

Kim, relax please. I was just stating things that seem true about the Asian male penis, in that Asian males penis tends to be the stiffest of all male race.

So while white people and black people like to brag about their manhood or longer longjohns, their longjohns are flaccid like a limp sea cucumber.

My point was that we all have something positive to compensate for the negative aspect of different races' penis.

So chill and let's all be open-minded with what others here have to say. :)

Let me start by saying this thread is completely stupid and is reflective of a lot of individuals' feelings of insecurity. None of you know if this myth is true or not but clearly some of you are afraid it might be so you write stupid shit like this:Jjampong, since you're new here I won't tear into you too much but do try not to dumb down the site with ignorant statements like, "I've read a study on the internet that states that..." Do you have a source, can you quote a site? Are you sure it wasn't some parody site like this (http://asianworldnews.8m.com/story02.html)?
.

[poisenedrice]

By the power of Greyskull, these threads always crop up on this board.

Anyhow, I remember when my cousin and I were about 10-11, we wandered into some Chinese book store in Houston. We stumbled on this picture book of Shaolin monks and went "WOW! COOL!".

Of course, those smiles turned upside down when we flipped to a page of two dudes dragging CINDER BLOCKS WITH THEY DICKS. It was a traumatic experience - those dudes were rockin' tripods. From that day on, I thought Shaolin monks had the biggest penises out there.

So I never believe people who think Asian dicks be smaller - there are Asian dudes packing Anaconda style but don't brag about it. That's what's great about being Asian - we don't talk shit like those white dudes.

[kimtae]

Kim, relax please. I was just stating things that seem true about the Asian male penis, in that Asian males penis tends to be the stiffest of all male race.

So while white people and black people like to brag about their manhood or longer longjohns, their longjohns are flaccid like a limp sea cucumber.

My point was that we all have something positive to compensate for the negative aspect of different races' penis.

So chill and let's all be open-minded with what others here have to say. :)

What do you know? Strike three. Okay douchebag, get off the board. You're either a troll or just another weakass who will only drag us down. Either way my patience is done with you.

[JjampongMania]

Wow, do you have PMS or what? I am just stating my own opinion here and voila comes an angry guy named kimtae who just wants to play hard ball with people (i.e. your stupid strike 1 2 3 shit).

So what's wrong with saying that us Asian guys have rock hard penises? I think that's a plus. I don't know about you kid.

So what's your point?:mad:

What do you know? Strike three. Okay douchebag, get off the board. You're either a troll or just another weakass who will only drag us down. Either way my patience is done with you.

[poisenedrice]

Mr. Owl: "How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie roll center of a Tootsie Pop?"

JjiampongMania: "How many dicks have I sucked to find out how big Asian dicks are?"

[RebelAzn]

Look, when people say stuff like "this race of men have penises like this or that" you are basically creating stereotypes. This whole point of this thread to point out that every guy is different regardless of the race.

I have said this many times, unless you actually saw every guy's dick in a hard-on position, there is no way you can tell me how big each guy's dick size based on race.

The whole point is not to create more stereotypes.

[JjampongMania]

poisoned, how old are you?


JjiampongMania: "How many dicks have I sucked to find out how big Asian dicks are?"

[JjampongMania]

Look, when people say stuff like "this race of men have penises like this or that" you are basically creating a stereotypes. This whole point of this thread to point out that every guy is different regardless of the race.

I have said this many times, unless you actually saw every guy's dick in a hard-on position, there is no way you can tell me how big each guy's dick size based on race.

The whole point is not to create more stereotypes.


okay man, sheesh guys. There's so much hate and angry people on this forum. I didn't mean to make a stereotype. I was just talking about what I've read and heard.

I also dislike stereotypes against us Asians. I didn't mean to further carry on the stereotype with my opinions.

[kimtae]

Mr. Owl: "How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie roll center of a Tootsie Pop?"

JjiampongMania: "How many dicks have I sucked to find out how big Asian dicks are?"

Jjampong, have you ever made it without biting?

[lopan]

Jjampong, it looks like you're trying to make at least a minute effort to review your opinion and to understand ours. So, good going.

However, understand that what you are saying perpetuates stereotypes. From a Buddhist perspective, you have good intentions, yes; but your actions cause harm. You cannot fight stereotypes with more stereotypes.

The senior members of this board have little patience for new members (unfortunately, no matter how good intentioned they are) who arrive and try to argue for stereotypes.

[Hadouken]

Great, my first post on this site and it's on the topic of penises (penii?). I feel so white. :rolleyes: Actually, I could care less. I do want to ask a question to the women here (if there are actually any of you reading this sorry thread): do you ladies get together on forums and start threads on breast size (or butt size) that span pages? Do you, you know, make random generalizations about whatever race having any relation to the tightness of vagina or the sensitivity of the clitoris? Do you hang your self-esteems on the size of your mammary glands? Or, god forbid, do you obsess over whether men base their attraction toward you solely on the body parts mentioned above? Just curious. Sorry guys, didn't mean to hijack this thread. You can go back to talking about your forward tails, now.

[Kuroyama]

Jjampong

I wanted to know how you seem to know so much about Black penises, (penii?), but I think Lopes has it covered.

At the end of the day, thin, thick, short, long, I would chalk up "happiness" to the family built BY your penis, rather than your penis itself. I was reminded a long time ago by some Jewish guy in his 70s that sex isnt forever.

When thats gone, how will you define yourself?

[RebelAzn]

Great, my first post on this site and it's on the topic of penises (penii?). I feel so white. :rolleyes: Actually, I could care less. I do want to ask a question to the women here (if there are actually any of you reading this sorry thread): do you ladies get together on forums and start threads on breast size (or butt size) that span pages? Do you, you know, make random generalizations about whatever race having any relation to the tightness of vagina or the sensitivity of the clitoris? Do you hang your self-esteems on the size of your mammary glands? Or, god forbid, do you obsess over whether men base their attraction toward you solely on the body parts mentioned above? Just curious. Sorry guys, didn't mean to hijack this thread. You can go back to talking about your forward tails, now.

Hadouken - If you bother to read the whole thread, you might have clue why this thread was started in the 1st place. While some always try to turn this into some kind of pissing contest, it is not the original thread's intention. Thank you for your holier-than-thou attitude though.

[Lum]

I do want to ask a question to the women here (if there are actually any of you reading this sorry thread): do you ladies get together on forums and start threads on breast size (or butt size) that span pages? Do you, you know, make random generalizations about whatever race having any relation to the tightness of vagina or the sensitivity of the clitoris?

And if so, where would a person go to read such a discussion?

[Hadouken]

Actually, I really am curious about whether women get as obsessed about these things as guys do. But I admit that I should have started a new thread on the topic. My bad. Hey, I’m new here; let me have a strike or two. To answer your question, RebelAzn, yes, I’ve read every post on this thread. In fact, I read them again before I made my first reply. Normally, I try to respect the topic that I chose to join in, but this to me just seem like every other discussion about the penis on every forum that has more than one male member (pun unintended), and they always seem self-defeating. I apologize for any slights, though my attitude will remain unchanged, so deal with it however you like.

But I made the commitment to try to contribute something when I signed up so I’ll try to drop my two cents worth here since I already spoke up. Yes, it sucks that AMs get bombarded with so much negative stereotypes, and the one about the small penis is probably the worse. You can’t talk to a white person without him spitting it out eventually. And since I have only an average penis (what is the supposed average now, like 5”?), trust me, I can sympathize. But the irony is, it’s white men (with their self-proclaimed superior sizes) who came up with this whole thing in the first place. Now don’t you find it strange that those who are supposed to be secure in their dominance in all things (including sexual) need to harp on and on about OTHER men’s privacy? It’s like; they need to constantly remind themselves of who/what they are. Or maybe they’re just trying to convince themselves of something that’s not really true. ;)

So in the end, this whole thing really is about the white man's self-esteem (or his lack of). He came up with all these stereotypes so he can feel a little better about himself. He feel threatened by men of other races, so he came up with a game where the rules are rigged so he can maintain his precarious perch on the top. After all, men of color have demonstrated time and again that they're equals to their white counterparts in just about everything. So whites invent a new artificial measuring stick in which the expectations are impossible to meet. If your penis is large enough, then you're not tall enough. If you're tall enough then you're not smart enough, and so on and so forth, with the final obstacle being that your skin isn't white enough. This is their one last refuge of staying ahead of the rest of us. And if you join in their game, then you've fallen into their trap. That's why, IMHO, our obsessions over this is self-defeating. The best answer to a game that's rigged is to not play at all.

[RebelAzn]

Actually, I really am curious about whether women get as obsessed about these things as guys do. But I admit that I should have started a new thread on the topic. My bad. Hey, I’m new here; let me have a strike or two. To answer your question, RebelAzn, yes, I’ve read every post on this thread. In fact, I read them again before I made my first reply. Normally, I try to respect the topic that I chose to join in, but this to me just seem like every other discussion about the penis on every forum that has more than one male member (pun unintended), and they always seem self-defeating. I apologize for any slights, though my attitude will remain unchanged, so deal with it however you like.

But I made the commitment to try to contribute something when I signed up so I’ll try to drop my two cents worth here since I already spoke up. Yes, it sucks that AMs get bombarded with so much negative stereotypes, and the one about the small penis is probably the worse. You can’t talk to a white person without him spitting it out eventually. And since I have only an average penis (what is the supposed average now, like 5”?), trust me, I can sympathize. But the irony is, it’s white men (with their self-proclaimed superior sizes) who came up with this whole thing in the first place. Now don’t you find it strange that those who are supposed to be secure in their dominance in all things (including sexual) need to harp on and on about OTHER men’s privacy? It’s like; they need to constantly remind themselves of who/what they are. Or maybe they’re just trying to convince themselves of something that’s not really true. ;)

So in the end, this whole thing really is about the white man's self-esteem (or his lack of). He came up with all these stereotypes so he can feel a little better about himself. He feel threatened by men of other races, so he came up with a game where the rules are rigged so he can maintain his precarious perch on the top. After all, men of color have demonstrated time and again that they're equals to their white counterparts in just about everything. So whites invent a new artificial measuring stick in which the expectations are impossible to meet. If your penis is large enough, then you're not tall enough. If you're tall enough then you're not smart enough, and so on and so forth, with the final obstacle being that your skin isn't white enough. This is their one last refuge of staying ahead of the rest of us. And if you join in their game, then you've fallen into their trap. That's why, IMHO, our obsessions over this is self-defeating. The best answer to a game that's rigged is to not play at all.

Hadouken - Thank you for putting down some points. I do agree with you actually, which was the purpose of this thread. Basically, I am saying it in a different way. There are PLENTY of white men with small penises. It is a secret they won't let out. It is funny Howard Stern had a show on micro penises with bunch of white men. I have been long past this penis debate since I have been around a bit. It is immature to constantly try to judge a man based on the penis size. I brought up this debate because those NYC DJs brought it up yet again in their recent racist prank call.

Each man's penis size is his own business. I just don't appreciate white men constantly lump all 1 Billion Asian men into one big group. I am sure some Asian men have small penises but there are ones with big ones too. At end of the day, we just want to be treated by our individual penis vs. lumped into a whole group via the stereotype.

I can assure you most women don't care for this topic one way or another.

[cattygurl]

I just want to note:

Japanese porn is censored in Japan, and as such, penis size is actually not important on the actors, since all genitals are blurred/blacked out.
In fact, they avoid men with large penises, because women don't want to work with them.

Re: Penis size, it's the erect size that's important, not the flaccid state. When guys talk about small penises, they always talk about the flaccid state.

There is NO correlation of height or race to penis size. All legit studies have shown a minimal difference- less than 1/4 inch if I remember correctly, of the average size between different races.

[cattygurl]

I think penis size also correlates with the size of the butt of the related female. If you think about it, it would not make any sense anatomically that a 10-inch dick goes inside a small canal.

1- WRONG.

2- Size of butt/hips have no relative correlation to the size of their vagina. Most babies are WAAAAYYYY larger than the biggest penis on any big dick porn.

3-People, please go take human anatomy. This kind of talk proves people are seriously misinformed.

[cattygurl]

And yes, women don't really care overall.

Men are fixated with the wee-wee, especially white men.

In fact, I've heard more women complain about too large penises over the long run, and the whole big dick obsession, IMHO, is really misogynistic, if you look at the taglines "rip her pussy apart!" "watch Doofus blow out her pussy and wreck her ass with his giant cock!" "Watch her grimace as she takes the giant pole up her ass!" Folks, you cannot tell me that shit isn't misogynistic.

[Vahz]

That's the way it works in America. Since penis size is primarly a white male insecurity and they control the country, it now becomes your insecurity.

What's funny is that black men supposedly are stereotyped to be a bit bigger than everyone else but I never see them attempting to trump it up unless he has no other values to speak of such as dress style, job, etc.

This is primarly a white male obsession.

And like Catty said, in Japanese porn, it's the act that they're focusing on, not the penis size but I do have to admit that I think the stereotype comes from two things that white men see in Asians: Height and Japanese porn.

[poisenedrice]

poisoned, how old are you?

26 going on 14.

[minbo]

There have been no conclusive "Penis size" study done anywhere. The reason is because there is no agreement on methodology. Do you measure a flaccid penis dangling, a flaccid penis stretched (then stretched with what amount of force), an erect penis? Do you measure straight out from the belly to the tip, or do you use a flexible measurement and follow the contour of the penis? If the penis is curved or juts out from the torso at an angle, do you measure the longer or shorter side? Do you average the two? Do you measure from the top or bottom? If the person has a gut, do you allow for the fat covering the pubic bone? Even the "sold condom size" approach does not work out very well because the condom companies have noted that different populations buy incorrectly sized condoms for vanity reasons or ignorance.

Penis size is a male obsession. Sure you have size queens who care about size, but they are a minority. It appears to most likely be a primitive holdover for male social stature. Most penis iconography is made by men for men. In visual tests to identify people, men always looked to the crotch in addition to the face, irregardless of if the subject was male or female, human or animal. Women just looked at the face.

Perception of sexual prowess and penis size changes according to how threatened a population feels about another population. It is an old trick to stimulate men into antagonistic attitudes to protect "their women". During WWII, the Japanese were portrayed as sexual deviants with large sexual appetites and big penises. There was a propaganda poster that I saw of a buck toothed eyeglass wearing Tojo running off with a white woman over his shoulder and a GI chasing him. After the war, Asians were not viewed as a threat and their penis size and sexual powers shrank dramatically. In WWI, the German soldier was hyper-sexualized as well, with propaganda showing German soldiers carrying off young Belgian schoolgirls. "Blacks" are hyper-sexualized because the dominant society (whites) are afraid if them. It started with the tenuous control of minority white slave master over majority black slaves and continued over to class/race tensions.

edit - changed "Blacks" are hyper-masculanized to "Blacks" are hyper-sexualized as that was what I was discussing. They are related and often go hand in hand, but they are distinctly different phenomena of social strategies to label a different population group as "them" and generate some sort of "protective" social response.

[Ike]

An easily standardized way to measure penis length (I read it on a website, I don't have a penis, and I've never measured anyone's):
Stand upright, with the penis erect, hold a ruler under the penis, touching the penis owner at the base, and measure.

*sigh* I can't believe I'm feeding this thread.

[Scowl]

An easily standardized way to measure penis length (I read it on a website, I don't have a penis, and I've never measured anyone's):
Stand upright, with the penis erect, hold a ruler under the penis, touching the penis owner at the base, and measure.

That's wrong.

I always measure from the anus. Sometimes from the top of the ass crack if I've been having a bad week.

[minbo]

While I have not measured any penis, since I have one I would like to think I'm familiar with the equipment. So trust me, it is more complicated than just sticking a ruler below and measuring to the tip. That does not account for curvature, or the fact that the penis extends into the torso a few inches. If you press through the scrotum, you should be able to feel it. That is what some "penis extension" surgery take advantage of. The penis is anchored by a piece of cartilage. If they snip the cartilage and gently draw the penis out of the torso over the course of a few months while the cartilage repairs and re-anchors the penis, they can draw out the penis and "lengthen" the penis as far as the external expression. In reality they have not lengthened the penis at all.

Anyway, you depending on how far back you track the penis through the scrotum (or press into the flesh behind), you can measure a longer or shorter penis given the exact same penis and different people taking the measurement. If you use the scrotum as the starting point, some men have their scrotum attach further up the shaft than others. Since the scrotum is malleable, that length is usable (able to be inserted into an anus, mouth, vagina, etc)

[evil_FUX]

^Hehe I like how seriously you took to answer that minbo.

[cattygurl]

Again, I'm trying to refresh my memories of college classes. I recall in my human sexuality class, while there hasn't been a penis length study in the US, some countries have done studies (Italy being one). My prof brought data of research from different condom companies (US, Euro and Japanese companies). She also brought in data on penis size from different journals or urology. All these were not self-measured surveys. We also looked at the Kinsey research, and the conclusion was pretty much that penis length or girth =/= race, which is also, i believe, the general concensus among medical professionals.

[JjampongMania]

While I have not measured any penis, since I have one I would like to think I'm familiar with the equipment. So trust me, it is more complicated than just sticking a ruler below and measuring to the tip. That does not account for curvature, or the fact that the penis extends into the torso a few inches. If you press through the scrotum, you should be able to feel it.


It is true that penises that are curved are not accurately measured.

These penis studies are dumb, because they either have a small sample population, or measure the penis at a certain time of the day.

For example, us guys know that our penis is nice and big when we get up in the morning.

But during the day, when we're running around doing errands, our penis length is reduced since the majority of the blood flow occurs within the body or is flowed towards the brain.

even flaccid penis length varies, again, with your activity. You may have had a big workout at the gym, and find out that your penis length has decreased, since most of the blood flowed to the muscles. But while you're thinking about sexual stuff in your head, your penis will increase in its girth and length!

[kimtae]

It is true that penises that are curved are not accurately measured.

These penis studies are dumb, because they either have a small sample population, or measure the penis at a certain time of the day.

For example, us guys know that our penis is nice and big when we get up in the morning.

But during the day, when we're running around doing errands, our penis length is reduced since the majority of the blood flow occurs within the body or is flowed towards the brain.

even flaccid penis length varies, again, with your activity. You may have had a big workout at the gym, and find out that your penis length has decreased, since most of the blood flowed to the muscles. But while you're thinking about sexual stuff in your head, your penis will increase in its girth and length!
Look at this idiot trying to be the voice of reason now. Idiot, you're the one who was posting the ludicrous internet droppings earlier that proposed the opposite of what you're saying now. Just crawl off into your hole.

[wuwei]

edit Why cant i type in all caps? i cant post my original message without using all caps.

[JjampongMania]

Wa wa wa, crybaby. Go back into your crib and try 'over and over" again to try to suck your own cock.

Look at this idiot trying to be the voice of reason now. Idiot, you're the one who was posting the ludicrous internet droppings earlier that proposed the opposite of what you're saying now. Just crawl off into your hole.

[angi]

All you need is two fingers and a tongue.

[kimtae]

Wa wa wa, crybaby. Go back into your crib and try 'over and over" again to try to suck your own cock.Are you allowed unsupervised on the internet? Does your mommy know you're on an adult site? Don't come back until you have a written note giving permission for you to be here from your mommy.

[Dialectic]

I've only read like two posts in this thread, but I have to say the amusement value is HIGH. Please continue. Also, Hadouken, thanks for all your posts so far in the various threads. Your wisdom and patience are appreciated.

[Kuroyama]

I cant believe the length and girth of this thread!

[Ike]

I cant believe the length and girth of this thread!

Kuroyama is win.

[Lum]

It's finally getting entertaining in here. I had no problem with this topic until it turned into a pseudo-science convention, but now I'm feeling it. In my pants.

[kimtae]

I cant believe the length and girth of this thread!

All your base are belong to Kuro.

[Vahz]

All you need is two fingers and a tongue.

That's that I heard but what do I know?

[JjampongMania]

Are you allowed unsupervised on the internet?


Am I allowed unsupervised on the net? What kind of f__ing English grammar is that? You learned that grammar from an ESL slob back in Korea?

Ni Cham bahboh gah te! :D



Does your mommy know you're on an adult site?

Heh? Are you smoking weeds? The last time I've been to fighting 44s, it's an Asian unity/empowerment website.

I think for you, you're looking too much at the fighting44s banner. I think you're hallucinating that the flowers are your mom and sister's spreaded vaginas.



Don't come back until you have a written note giving permission for you to be here from your mommy.

^^ Very lame. Pffft.. LOL!!

[JadeDragon]

Heh? Are you smoking weeds? The last time I've been to fighting 44s, it's an Asian unity/empowerment website.

I think for you, you're looking too much at the fighting44s banner. I think you're hallucinating that the flowers are your mom and sister's spreaded vaginas.

Dude, for someone who acts like he speaks perfect English, your grammar and tenses are pretty crappy.

Think before you speak, cibai kia. Orang bodoh pun mahu cakap banyak. (OMG, I can speak a foreign language too!!!11133t)

[Scowl]

What kind of f__ing English grammar is that?

How come you'll type out "cock" but you won't type out "fuck?" One leads to the other, after all.

[nekohead]

Here is my take.
Men Have them.
Women DON'T
END OF THREAD......