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Millerboy
Feb 28th, 2007, 07:12 AM
AsianWeek: Why I Hate Blacks by Kenneth Eng

A San Francisco weekly newspaper that bills itself as "The Voice of Asian America" is facing harsh criticism from that very community for publishing a column Friday titled "Why I Hate Blacks."

In the column, AsianWeek regular contributor Kenneth Eng listed "reasons" to discriminate against African Americans. The piece has been pulled from the newspaper's Web site, but the print edition of the free paper, owned by the politically influential Fang family, was still available in news racks Monday.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/27/MNGTCOBI921.DTL

This is interesting because he also wrote an article called, "Why I Hate Asians," a few weeks ago, on January 12, 2007. Here's an exercpt of that article:

It seems like an odd title for an article written by an Asian Supremacist, but there are very good reasons why I hate many of my own kind.

The first thing I hate about Asians in America is how so many of them want to suck up to whites.... The second thing I hate about Asians is how little pride most of them have... The third thing I hate about Asians is how apathetic many of them are in terms of honor these days.

What do you guys think about his articles? I think I agree with some parts of them, but not everything.

Dialectic
Feb 28th, 2007, 07:43 AM
Guy sounds like he should be posting on Modelminority (or was an early forum member on our site). He's got issues.

silkie
Feb 28th, 2007, 06:31 PM
I am also disappointed at Asia Week's reply, which is the same bullshit that they the Rosie daily princetonian Carollas have been feeding us. Really, wtf? They should've known better. Why not denounce Eng's stance, or do a piece to counter it AT THE TIME WHEN THE ARTICLE WAS FIRST PUBLISHED?

LaiSteve66
Feb 28th, 2007, 06:53 PM
Kenneth Eng's a douche. He's been to various forums like yellowworld, aznforum, asiafinest, and asiansinc where he posts threads promoting violence and then he wonders why people don't take him seriously.

kimtae
Mar 1st, 2007, 12:01 AM
Guy sounds like he should be posting on Modelminority (or was an early forum member on our site). He's got issues.
The Dumbass we loathe and hate as millerboy was known as stevemn on MM. He was chased out for being a retard there, makes you wonder why he's still here.

Millerboy
Mar 1st, 2007, 06:12 AM
The Dumbass we loathe and hate as millerboy was known as stevemn on MM. He was chased out for being a retard there, makes you wonder why he's still here.

Chased out for being a retard? I was chased out for defending Whites on there. lol. There goes your freedom of speech. I was banned for that reason, if you call that chased out, then might as well throw away the 1st amendment.

Freedom of Speech - 1st Amendment of US Constitution

Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot, some of my favorite socialists, were also concerned about "protecting fragile minds" from dangerous ideas.

I had not realized the FMV (Fragile Mind Virus) and the socialist cure had also made it to Asian-Americans.

Perhaps they caught it from Cambodia, Red China, Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Fortunately, White Americans have a more robust constitution and the USA has a more robust Constitution.

Ideas are just not as big a threat to us as they are to Asians of the red persuasion.

vsoy
Mar 1st, 2007, 04:00 PM
And you'll be chased out or banned here as well if you continue being such a tool. There's free speech and then there's the stupidity and ignorance you spout. Maybe you ought to use the "search" function and read more about AA issues and post less twit-like crap.

F44 is for intelligent and witty discussion and if you and anyone else can't be fucked to be bothered to do a little thought, reading and or contributing something meaningful to this forum then I suggest you leave with some of your dignity intact.

atlasien
Mar 1st, 2007, 09:21 PM
http://www.metafilter.com/59058/Is-Some-Hate-more-Hateful

This is funny in a trainwreck kind of way.... but sad too.

I went to college with Ken Eng, back at NYU Film. He was always crazy, always loathsome, and always racist. The kid was a legend. I hardly ever encountered him myself, but I heard stories...

He was in a friend's life drawing class, for example, and at one point the teacher asked everyone what they first looked for when drawing a figure. Everyone gave sane answers - "I look for an action line" or "I look for an interesting feature" - but then Ken said, "first, I imagine the subject as a lycanthrope." And then, lo and behold, everyone cranes their necks to look at Ken's work, and indeed, he's drawn a shitty bevy of lycanthropes for his assignments.

At another point, in a screenwriting class with maybe six people in it, he would constantly make his classmates read his writing in class and then take back the scripts so that no one would steal his ideas. One script centered around some sort of Lara Croft-esque babe who was participating in a rather dangerous game indeed: a bounty hunt to kill everyone with an IQ below 110. At one point in the script, a nuclear device was about to hit China, but then in a heroic moment, it was rerouted to, I believe, a stadium of black people in Detroit. Asked why this had happened, why it was a victory that the Asians were spared for the blacks, he proudly responded that "there has never been, nor will there ever be, a black genius."

Needless to say, that script is currently in production and is going to be a huge success, bearing the title Pirates Of The Caribbean 3.

You should also look out for The 0th Dimension, in which an anthropomorphic mantis fights a pegasus.

He would also do things like, when profs would show clips from Casablanca or The Godfather in class, raise his hand and whine aloud that there was no point in watching crappy old movies when his own dialog was so much better.

Eng is also a foe of Marvel Comics. I have some friends who work there, and oh the stories. He used to have a GeoCities blog where he laid out his thoughts in pure and crazy detail, centering around the argument that Marvel is racist against Asians, but unfortunately it appears to be down. It was ripe with bitter, narcissistic crazy, at any rate, fueled no doubt in part by the fact he had interned there but never been hired.

He seemed especially horrified that they had hired a woman who got along with people, but not he. He also bragged that he had vandalized the bathrooms out of...well, I don't know what. At any rate, I'm sure it showed Marvel.

Anyway, here's an interview with him (http://www.forewordmagazine.com/ftw/ftwarchives.aspx?id=20050601.htm).

Describe one recurring dream you have?
Escaping this prison of a planet and physically entering the 0th Dimension as an anthropomorphic shark.


posted by Sticherbeast at 3:17 AM PST on March 1 [25 favorites]

kimtae
Mar 1st, 2007, 10:28 PM
Chased out for being a retard? I was chased out for defending Whites on there. lol. There goes your freedom of speech. I was banned for that reason, if you call that chased out, then might as well throw away the 1st amendment.

Freedom of Speech - 1st Amendment of US Constitution

Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot, some of my favorite socialists, were also concerned about "protecting fragile minds" from dangerous ideas.

I had not realized the FMV (Fragile Mind Virus) and the socialist cure had also made it to Asian-Americans.

Perhaps they caught it from Cambodia, Red China, Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Fortunately, White Americans have a more robust constitution and the USA has a more robust Constitution.

Ideas are just not as big a threat to us as they are to Asians of the red persuasion.

What makes you think you're smart enough to have dangerous ideas? You're nothing but a low-grade troll. Never address or reply back to me again. I haven't given you permission and you still seem to be posting without adult supervision.

Vetrean
Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:08 AM
I was chased out for defending Whites on there.

Elaboration on this would be nice.

EDIT: On a related note, why does it seem like a lot of topics involving Millerboy degenerate into flame wars?

Is all this really necessary?

LaiSteve66
Mar 2nd, 2007, 01:29 AM
Elaboration on this [Millerboy being chased out of mm.com] would be nice.

Well, to be fair you really can't post the following on mm.com and expect to receive a warm welcome:

He starts off defending his Paleoconservative views which are diametrically opposed to the views held by most mm.com members:


My political leanings are similar to Pat Buchanan. I'm considered a paleoconservative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative

Well, I support legal immigration, not illegal immigration, so that's why I support the Minutemen. And I don't think paleocons want me out of the country. To say that they want all non-Whites out of the country is just silly fear-mongering.

I also support the Republican Party because of gun rights. I am a Life Member of the NRA, I paid them $700 to become one and I subscribe to the American Rifleman magazine, I get it every month. And I go hunting and competitive shooting as hobbies at least once a week.

They didn't like his use of the terms "mestizo", "negro", or "Mongoloid":

Anyways, why would you support the Minutemen?

What makes you think, that as an Asian immigrant, that you have more in common with racist, conservative, sheltered, elitist, arrogant White men than with Mexican immigrants who are here struggling to survive in a White dominated society, trying to build a better life for their children?

That's just a stereotype propagated by the media. It's not true at all. I've met a few Minutemen and they are normal citizens who are NOT Nazis or racists.

Also, I'm not an Asian immigrant. My parents were, I was born here in the USA, in California. And I actually identify with Whites a lot. I probably identify myself with Whites the most, even more than Asians. I can relate to Whites 75%+ of the time because I grew up around them, went to an upper-class suburban school, one of the best in "the valley." I relate NOTHING to mestizos (or Mexican as you call them) or negroes.

But I still was raised under two Vietnamese parents, so I have some Asian culture and tradition in me. I consider myself to be an Asian, or part of the Asian race (Mongoloid race).

They had a problem with him owning and wearing Abercrombie & Fitch clothing:

I don't want to answer that. I mostly wear white t-shirts, but I do have some AF clothing.

http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19738

They didn't like him identifying as "Oriental":



So, you're oriental?

yes I am Oriental. I'm Vietnamese.

http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19654

Again they didn't like his political views:

After reading StupidNM's posts in this thread, I have finally concluded that he's nothing but at stupid troll. I have put in so much effort to tolerate his Viet Republican views, but now I don't even think he's a Viet Republican anymore. He's just a fucking idiot and a troll.

He's a Paleoconservative Republican. Paleocons have views just as extreme as Neocons.

I wonder how he reconciles being Viet Namese and subscribing to an ideology that includes states' rights Neo-Confederates, White Nativists and Isolationists.....

I subscribe to all of those issues that you stated.

http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=20217&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10

They didn't like his brand of sarcasm:

Hollywood is a propaganda machine for the genocide of Asians. It's pretty obvious. They are no different from Nazi propaganda making Aryans the master race to subjugate Jews. Hollywood is the Nazi and we are the Jews.

This sort of propaganda is just like the Nazi stuff where they grossly exaggerate Jewish noses and compare them to rats. They are doing the same thing by demonizing Asians.

Isn't it obvious folks? We're facing a new holocaust where they want to wipe out the "Yellow Peril" from the Earth forever to make way for whitey to be the undisputed master race.

This is true. We need to realize that the *billions* of Asians in Asia right now don't count. Over 2 billion Asians but the Whites are still a threat, with their small numbers, they can overtake us.

It's *our* nations that are being flooded with non-Asian immigrants, look at what they're doing to China.

It's *our* nations that have catastrophically low birth rates, below replacement level.

Don’t you get it? ASIANS ARE AT RISK FOR ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. (If you can't tell I was being sarcastic, and what I'm really talking about is Whites, then you're too stupid to understand my post).

And they didn't like how he complained about anti-White racism on mm.com:

Why is it okay on MM to say the words: cracker, honkey, hick, or whitetrash? Yet when someone says something racist against other non-Whites, it's automatically labeled as "racist."

Look at yourselves, people. People who use racist terms against Whites ARE RACISTS too. And this is coming from an Asian Male, yes, I am an AM. The amount of stupidity on this forum is amazing.

http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=20221&highlight=

He got off on the wrong foot and they had a field day with him. It was truly a pitiful site. I'm not making this up, he really did post this drivel under the moniker "stevenmn".

Televangelist
Mar 2nd, 2007, 02:59 AM
Millerboy/stevenmn's postings do indeed boggle the mind.

Oh, and just to mention it because nobody's pointed it out yet -- the first amendment applies to government regulation of speech. There's nothing "un-American/Constitutional/whatever" about getting banned from a debate forum on the internet.

It's worth noting, though, that they're very selective over at ModelMinority as to which slurs they have a problem with. I can't even how many times they called me a 'kike', lol.

Sizwe_X
Mar 2nd, 2007, 11:37 AM
Well, to be fair you really can't post the following on mm.com and expect to receive a warm welcome:

He starts off defending his Paleoconservative views which are diametrically opposed to the views held by most mm.com members:







They didn't like his use of the terms "mestizo", "negro", or "Mongoloid":



They had a problem with him owning and wearing Abercrombie & Fitch clothing:



http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19738

They didn't like him identifying as "Oriental":



http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=19654

Again they didn't like his political views:



http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=20217&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10

They didn't like his brand of sarcasm:



And they didn't like how he complained about anti-White racism on mm.com:



http://www.modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=20221&highlight=

He got off on the wrong foot and they had a field day with him. It was truly a pitiful site. I'm not making this up, he really did post this drivel under the moniker "stevenmn".

LaiSteve66, you forgot this precious gem of wisdom.

I don't hate blacks. I just think blacks are ugly and stupid. Blacks have done nothing for me to hate them.

All I'm trying to say is, it is not racist to love your own people. I LOVE MY PEOPLE. I believe in self-determination for every race.

Scowl
Mar 2nd, 2007, 11:51 AM
On a related note, why does it seem like a lot of topics involving Millerboy degenerate into flame wars?

Is all this really necessary?

That's because for a lot of the people who have been here for a while, their patience is at an end. The traffic to this site is slower nowadays, but we used to get all kinds of people coming on here to defend white people and denounce Asian racists while failing to acknowledge the effects or even the existence of White Privilege. And it's always the same argument, varying only in degree of racism and degree of crazy.

A lot of us have spent an awful lot of time trying to explain things in a calm and rational manner, but to no avail. Time and time again, it has been proven to be a total waste of time trying to argue and debate with these people; no one's mind is changed, no one learns anything, and those people leave, having contributed nothing and having wasted everyone's time.

Therefore some of us now choose to skip the foreplay and get right to the flames.

I, of course, am above such things and do not concern myself with such frivolities. Unless I'm bored.

LaiSteve66
Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:47 PM
^^ The guy's worse than epmd.

Televangelist
Mar 3rd, 2007, 12:48 AM
Just a note, on this:

but we used to get all kinds of people coming on here to defend white people and denounce Asian racists while failing to acknowledge the effects or even the existence of White Privilege. And it's always the same argument, varying only in degree of racism and degree of crazy.

To acknowledge that white privilege exists as a systemic entity and to defend it would be, we agree, inherently racist.

However: For someone to disagree with the existence of white privilege, or to disagree as to its form (Is it situational and best understood in specific instances, or is it a system of institutional oppression, can there be cases of black/asian/anything else privilege as well, etc.), cannot be inherently racist -- it's a dispute as to a factual question. Some of the people holding a view may very well be racists, but that's true of any view.

The first step to seriously debating this issue is to separate out those who support white privilege from those who simply debate its existence/form. Apples and oranges.

tkguy
Mar 3rd, 2007, 02:40 AM
The first step to seriously debating this issue is to separate out those who support white privilege from those who simply debate its existence/form. Apples and oranges.

It is hilarious to see yet another white guy trying to direct the discusion on white privilege on an asian forum.

lopan
Mar 3rd, 2007, 03:02 AM
The first step to seriously debating this issue is to separate out those who support white privilege from those who simply debate its existence/form. Apples and oranges.

I agree. But let's not get carried away by refocusing a question to DEFINING the states of white priviledge, as this can be extremely counter productive -- characteristic of the classic "green" meme. (see Dialectic's integral posts for more on spiral dynamics).

Televangelist
Mar 3rd, 2007, 06:08 AM
It is hilarious to see yet another white guy trying to direct the discusion on white privilege on an asian forum.

If there's an injustice to be fixed, all people interested in justice should take an active role into looking at how to fix it, regardless of their skin color.

Ike
Mar 3rd, 2007, 07:41 AM
Just a note, on this:



To acknowledge that white privilege exists as a systemic entity and to defend it would be, we agree, inherently racist.

However: For someone to disagree with the existence of white privilege, or to disagree as to its form (Is it situational and best understood in specific instances, or is it a system of institutional oppression, can there be cases of black/asian/anything else privilege as well, etc.), cannot be inherently racist -- it's a dispute as to a factual question. Some of the people holding a view may very well be racists, but that's true of any view.

The first step to seriously debating this issue is to separate out those who support white privilege from those who simply debate its existence/form. Apples and oranges.

The existence of white privilege is not up for debate on f44s.
Please read: http://www.thefighting44s.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3603.

Televangelist
Mar 3rd, 2007, 05:12 PM
I've read all of those articles before. They're weak to varying degrees, though the McIntosh one is almost comically so, to the extent that I'm surprised anyone even bothers citing it anymore.

I'm fully aware there are instances in my life where I've benefitted from being white. Tallying it up fairly and honestly, though, I can think of many more instances where I'd have "come out ahead" by being nonwhite. Was my experience growing up typical? Probably not, but again, that's all the more reason to examine privilege on a systematic, institutional basis.


It's a bit of an arrogant assumption to think that anyone who disagrees with you simply hasn't read the incredibly basic articles you cite on the topic, isn't it?


Also, is "height privilege" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tall+advantage&btnG=Google+Search) open for debate here?

Because that's been systematically, scientifically documented, and its effects are enormous. As someone who's 5'4", can I dismiss the thoughts of anyone 5'10" and above as someone who is "speaking from a position of height privilege"?

evil_FUX
Mar 3rd, 2007, 07:16 PM
^I'm kind of curious, what do you find weak about those articles?

Televangelist
Mar 4th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Where would be the appropriate place to discuss them? Dialectic's original thread is locked, and I really don't want to hijack this thread any more than it already is. But show me where the appropriate spot is, and I'll take time to respond to them.

Millerboy
Mar 5th, 2007, 02:10 AM
‘Hate Blacks’ Writer Dismissed By AsianWeek

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/01/BAGO7ODAA91.DTL

Hating whites and hating Asians was tolerable, but not hating blacks. Who knows? lol...

aelward
Mar 8th, 2007, 09:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4fjMhGn-I

Amazing. You know how when a minority person says or does something, it somehow gets tied to their entire race? I don't think anyone who sees this clip will make that mistake :P He's nuts.

silkie
Mar 8th, 2007, 12:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4fjMhGn-I


I have never seen someone as broken.
What baffles me more is how the fuck this guy ever got a job at AsiaWeek in the first place.

Scowl
Mar 8th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Where would be the appropriate place to discuss them? Dialectic's original thread is locked, and I really don't want to hijack this thread any more than it already is. But show me where the appropriate spot is, and I'll take time to respond to them.

Start a new thread. It would only be appropriate, I think.

I suppose the identity forum would be a good place.

Millerboy
Mar 8th, 2007, 03:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4fjMhGn-I

Amazing. You know how when a minority person says or does something, it somehow gets tied to their entire race? I don't think anyone who sees this clip will make that mistake :P He's nuts.

That guy is a big idiot. *sigh* Why is he such a loser? Why did the mainstream media even put him on air? Too many idiots today in the world.

I figure if they didn't fire him from his job, his next column would be "Why I hate Hispanics." LMAO. And the part of "cybernetic dragons slaughtering all humans" is funny, he said that ridiculous statement in the Fox News interview. WHAT A GEEK. He's a misanthrope if there's anyone of the sort. He hates all humans, he's a effing anti-human.

silkie
Mar 8th, 2007, 07:06 PM
I fucking get it now.
The fucking dude is not there to answer the interviewer's questions. He is there to promote his own self-published books about Dragons and Lexicon and what not. He is just there cramming away about himself, as if there is a phantom interviewer there. If you replace the questions about the AW article with, say, "please tell me what your book is about," and, "please tell me something about yourself that you have incorporated into your book," it seems to all makes sense. And the bits about Sophia Coppola and Tarintino is there to answer the questions about his article, but then he flips immediately back to his book.

I will not even be surprised if he is wrote the "I hate Blacks" piece as a way to generate enough interest, so that he can have a platform like Fox news (or perhaps I am giving him too much credit).

It doesn't matter though, he is still nuts, and have absolutely no sense of self promotion... At least before I thought he was completely off his rockers, but now I think he is completely off his rockers, but also too cheap to pay for advertising...

cattygurl
Mar 8th, 2007, 10:58 PM
KE obviously has a decent education- it's too bad he's a royal asshole, attention whore in the vein of Michelle Malkin, or both.

The thing that gets me the most is the fact that I've seen a lot more non-asian people *freak the fuck out* over KE's article, yet have complete silence and pass over issues like "gay=asian" article as a "joke." I'm supportive of gay AND minority rights, and that article was fucking offensive on every level- from stereotyping of Asian men as well as gay men across racial lines. Unfortunately, crap from the ilks of KE harms trying to address racism towards AAs as well as improve relationship of AAs with other minority groups.

His article already fuels the fire to further the divide that already exists between Asian and African-American relations. I'm sorely disappointed that AW even decided that publishing many of his articles as being a good idea. If he' been a victim of racism from African-Americans, I'm sorry for him but that gives him absolutely no excuse to feel, think or write a hateful article like he did. Even worse is the fact that by the quality of education he received, he should know better. That said, a good education doesn't mean you're not going to be a self-serving royal asshole from the pit of hell.

If he's using the "I hate blacks" as a way to generate controversy and interest Ann Coulter-style, then he gets a badzillion more asshole points. That's an incredibly low tactic to generate racism.

vsoy
Mar 9th, 2007, 01:00 AM
The fucking dude is not there to answer the interviewer's questions. He is there to promote his own self-published books about Dragons and Lexicon and what not. He is just there cramming away about himself, as if there is a phantom interviewer there.
The funniest, best example of KE's m.o. was when he was explaining why he hated black people he tried to change the conversation, "I guess you want to know why I call myself God of the universe?" and the interviewer said,
"No...I wasn't going to ask you about that"

Generally when I stumbled upon Fox News, Nancy Grace and interviews like this, I throw up a little in my throat and I can't believe the bullshit people talk about on this so called interviews that are really commercials.

lopan
Mar 9th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Kenneth Eng is psychotic. He's got real SERIOUS issues. I hate to say it, but he would have been the product of Fighting 44s. v.1.0 had we encouraged the crazies to be crazy, and not kicked them all the fuck out like we did.

Check out what a schoolmate said of him from this site:

http://www.metafilter.com/59058/Is-Some-Hate-more-Hateful

I went to college with Ken Eng, back at NYU Film. He was always crazy, always loathsome, and always racist. The kid was a legend. I hardly ever encountered him myself, but I heard stories...

He was in a friend's life drawing class, for example, and at one point the teacher asked everyone what they first looked for when drawing a figure. Everyone gave sane answers - "I look for an action line" or "I look for an interesting feature" - but then Ken said, "first, I imagine the subject as a lycanthrope." And then, lo and behold, everyone cranes their necks to look at Ken's work, and indeed, he's drawn a shitty bevy of lycanthropes for his assignments.

At another point, in a screenwriting class with maybe six people in it, he would constantly make his classmates read his writing in class and then take back the scripts so that no one would steal his ideas. One script centered around some sort of Lara Croft-esque babe who was participating in a rather dangerous game indeed: a bounty hunt to kill everyone with an IQ below 110. At one point in the script, a nuclear device was about to hit China, but then in a heroic moment, it was rerouted to, I believe, a stadium of black people in Detroit. Asked why this had happened, why it was a victory that the Asians were spared for the blacks, he proudly responded that "there has never been, nor will there ever be, a black genius."

Needless to say, that script is currently in production and is going to be a huge success, bearing the title Pirates Of The Caribbean 3.

You should also look out for The 0th Dimension, in which an anthropomorphic mantis fights a pegasus.

He would also do things like, when profs would show clips from Casablanca or The Godfather in class, raise his hand and whine aloud that there was no point in watching crappy old movies when his own dialog was so much better.

Eng is also a foe of Marvel Comics. I have some friends who work there, and oh the stories. He used to have a GeoCities blog where he laid out his thoughts in pure and crazy detail, centering around the argument that Marvel is racist against Asians, but unfortunately it appears to be down. It was ripe with bitter, narcissistic crazy, at any rate, fueled no doubt in part by the fact he had interned there but never been hired.

He seemed especially horrified that they had hired a woman who got along with people, but not he. He also bragged that he had vandalized the bathrooms out of...well, I don't know what. At any rate, I'm sure it showed Marvel.

Anyway, here's an interview with him.
Describe one recurring dream you have?
Escaping this prison of a planet and physically entering the 0th Dimension as an anthropomorphic shark.

posted by Sticherbeast at 3:17 AM PST on March 1 [30 favorites]

kikiandlala
Mar 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, Eng is a vile bigoted jack-ass but here's my question on it. Who let him "rep" for Asians?

On BT, Kuroyama often tells the people there that when you go to Japan - you have to act as if you are the representative of the whole of Afro-Americans/Africans/Caribbeans, etc. The way you behave - positive or negatively - will be broadbrushed onto everyone of the same colour.

The flip of that applies to the Asians in the US, don't they make up less than 8% of the total population. With so little exposure out there, the actions of a few get magnified especially if they're in the public eye.

This mag AsianWeekly has been in the business for over a decade. It's not naive enough to believe that it doesn't represent. Heck it proudly splashes out that it is the voice of Asian Americans. So why let Eng turn it into his little racist soapbox? His articles are nothing if not consistent but they're not thought-provoking or humorous, only thing he spews is "Why I hate so...and...so?" Did the people that hired him, not do a background check on the guy? They'd be able to turn up his academic records and run-ins with the law or campus security. By letting him out in public like that, AsianWeekly essentially said Eng reps for us and we condone what he says.

Televangelist
Mar 14th, 2007, 05:49 PM
On BT, Kuroyama often tells the people there that when you go to Japan - you have to act as if you are the representative of the whole of Afro-Americans/Africans/Caribbeans, etc. The way you behave - positive or negatively - will be broadbrushed onto everyone of the same colour.

No, you don't. I may very well be the first and last Jew most of the Japanese people in my town will ever meet, but that didn't stop me from doing as I felt was right regardless of any silly social customs I ran into along the way.

If they want to stereotype, that's their problem. By altering your behavior to fit in better with their stereotyping, you're letting the bigots win.

Of course, if your behavior was truly jackass-y to begin with and not merely 'improper' according to their arbitrary standards, that's a whole 'nother ballgame. :)

kikiandlala
Mar 15th, 2007, 03:56 AM
Hmm, perhaps I didn't explain it adequately. Kuroyama was talking to the audience of BT. He essentially said that they who go to Japan had to act like they were representatives of their people. Representatives as in diplomats and not as in fronting for locally held stereotypes. Too often, the first encounter the locals had with afro-americans/africans/caribbeans was through the US military - kids who had never been out of their hometowns and fed a diet of "hoorah" elitism, and came to act like they owned Japan.

The usual recipient of a person who didn't rep well was Bobby Ologun. He's a highly educated, well-off man from Nigeria working in Japan as a bug-eyed, pidgin speaking dimwit when in actuality he's bright and fluent in the language. His antics had led many locals to categorize all the Africans barring the ones they know first-hand as a "Bobby".

Kenneth Eng didn't rep anyone but himself. However for too long he got away with it. That "Why I hate Blacks" article wasn't his first racist drivel on the mag. So unless they were all blind up there, somewhere in the chain of command there had to be someone condoning what Eng was writing. The reason? I don't know, maybe Eng was sleeping with the guy. But the Fangs should give some explanation of where the editors for those 2 years at least.

theme
Mar 15th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Kenneth Eng didn't rep anyone but himself. However for too long he got away with it. That "Why I hate Blacks" article wasn't his first racist drivel on the mag. So unless they were all blind up there, somewhere in the chain of command there had to be someone condoning what Eng was writing. The reason? I don't know, maybe Eng was sleeping with the guy. But the Fangs should give some explanation of where the editors for those 2 years at least.

"maybe Eng was sleeping with the guy"

-lol

I think it was a publicity stunt and maybe in a small way it was also a revenge act for past transgressions by blacks against asians such as the Tsunami song. It's one account of playing fire with fire.