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bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 01:13 PM
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Nov 13th, 2006, 01:22 PM
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bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 01:48 PM
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bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 02:05 PM
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bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 02:15 PM
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generaltojo
Nov 13th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Shomer Sabbat: Observant of the Sabbath. Dual purpose: to indicate that no construction is taking place here because of the Sabbath, and as a request not to drive cars or any other mechanized vehicle through out of respect.

Courtesy of a co-worker.

bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 02:36 PM
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bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 02:38 PM
Shomer Sabbat: Observant of the Sabbath. Dual purpose: to indicate that no construction is taking place here because of the Sabbath, and as a request not to drive cars or any other mechanized vehicle through out of respect.

Courtesy of a co-worker.

General Tojo is right (almost), but I will pretend and continue as if I didnt see this.

bluejives
Nov 13th, 2006, 03:14 PM
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Hater Depot
Nov 14th, 2006, 02:33 AM
Hebrew is completely phonetic... In this sense, Hebrew is the same as Hangeul

Really? How do you pronounce 석류? 종로? 능력? :wink:

Hebrew is not perfectly phonetic either. I would guess only constructed languages are and even then, if they somehow fell into wide use they would quickly not be.

LowFrequency
Nov 14th, 2006, 05:18 AM
Call me illiterate in Hebrew, but I still don't know what that sign means, even after your five lengthy posts explaining it? (Just tell me what it means damit)

bluejives
Nov 14th, 2006, 01:07 PM
Call me illiterate in Hebrew, but I still don't know what that sign means, even after your five lengthy posts explaining it? (Just tell me what it means damit)

I thought tojo's post was pretty self-explanatory but I guess not.

What that sign means basically is that there is no work done on Saturday.

bluejives
Nov 14th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Hebrew is completely phonetic... In this sense, Hebrew is the same as Hangeul

Really? How do you pronounce 석류? 종로? 능력? :wink:

Hebrew is not perfectly phonetic either. I would guess only constructed languages are and even then, if they somehow fell into wide use they would quickly not be.

석류 = suk ryu

종로 = jong roh

능력 = neung rluk

Yes, Hebrew is not perfectly phonetic. I should have mentioned that in my crash course, the instructor focused solely on Sephardic pronunciation. Apparently, there is also an Ashkenazic pronunciation.

monkey king
Nov 14th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Hebrew is completely phonetic... In this sense, Hebrew is the same as Hangeul

Really? How do you pronounce 석류? 종로? 능력? :wink:

Hebrew is not perfectly phonetic either. I would guess only constructed languages are and even then, if they somehow fell into wide use they would quickly not be.

석류 = suk ryu

종로 = jong roh

능력 = neung rluk

Yes, Hebrew is not perfectly phonetic. I should have mentioned that in my crash course, the instructor focused solely on Sephardic pronunciation. Apparently, there is also an Ashkenazic pronunciation.
석류 = sung nyoo
종로 = jong no
능력 = neung nyuk

bluejives
Nov 15th, 2006, 04:34 PM
석류 = sung nyoo
종로 = jong no
능력 = neung nyuk

I see.

So the "gi-uk" (ㄱ) for "석류" is pronounced like "ee-un" (ㅇ).

Is that the point? What about the other two? I dont see any obvious exceptions to the standard pronunciation.

Hater Depot
Nov 15th, 2006, 10:27 PM
ㄹ changes to ㄴ, or visa versa, or ㄱ to ㅇ, etc., depending on the final consonant of the previous syllable. Most of these irregular pronunciations are fairly regular but a few aren't. Anyway, it's not phonetic spelling, that's for sure.

석류 changing to 성뉴 is actually a cool chain reaction -- first it becomes 석뉴, then 성뉴.

monkey king
Nov 15th, 2006, 11:52 PM
석류 = sung nyoo
종로 = jong no
능력 = neung nyuk

I see.

So the "gi-uk" (ㄱ) for "석류" is pronounced like "ee-un" (ㅇ).

Is that the point? What about the other two? I dont see any obvious exceptions to the standard pronunciation.You don't know the difference between ㄹ(l/r) and ㄴ(n)?

ChÈ
Nov 16th, 2006, 12:31 AM
I thought Korean script was supposed to be easy or is this just a lack of application coming home to roost?

Hater Depot
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:56 AM
No, it is almost ludicrously easy. But every language has its irregularities. Korean actually has very few and they're mostly quite predictable anyway, once you're aware of a few.

ChÈ
Nov 16th, 2006, 02:56 AM
I read somewhere that any person of at least average intelligence ought to be able to master the basics after only a single day's study.

ellencho
Nov 16th, 2006, 11:53 AM
This thread has become stupid. All the different pronunciations have more to do with how people pronounce things regionally in Korea rather than a lack of words being pronounced phonetically in Hangul. The discussion doesn't have much to do with whether or not Hangul or Hebrew are phonetically spoken languages but has instead turned into a "look how much I know about Korean" pissing contest.

Keep it on topic you bunch of show offs.

ellencho
Nov 16th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Actually come to think of it, it was originally BJ's thread that he wanted deleted. You still want this thread deleted? Say the word and it's done.

blockthebox
Nov 16th, 2006, 12:55 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

ZhuBaJie
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

i'm interested in a Hebrew lesson, but nobody has actually typed any Hebrew yet.

שָׁלוֹם!

bluejives
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:23 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

i'm interested in a Hebrew lesson, but nobody has actually typed any Hebrew yet.

שָׁלוֹם!

Hey, you were able to find block Hebrew fonts with vowels? How'd you do that?

BTW, that looks like a badly mangled attempt to write 'shalom!'.

bluejives
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Shomer Sabbat: Observant of the Sabbath. Dual purpose: to indicate that no construction is taking place here because of the Sabbath, and as a request not to drive cars or any other mechanized vehicle through out of respect.

Courtesy of a co-worker.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2734/avivhebrewey6pr4.jpg

Hi Tojo,
Could you do me a favor? Can you ask your co-worker what the third line is saying in this picture? I know the tops says "Aviv" and the second line is "matzo". The third, its hard to make out, but it says

כשר לפםח

Now

כשר

is "kosher". I just dont know the second word. It's

lamed- pey/fey - mem sofit - chet

This word's got me utterly mystified, especially because of the mem sofit (final mem), which is not final in this instance.

bluejives
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:35 PM
This thread has become stupid. All the different pronunciations have more to do with how people pronounce things regionally in Korea rather than a lack of words being pronounced phonetically in Hangul. The discussion doesn't have much to do with whether or not Hangul or Hebrew are phonetically spoken languages but has instead turned into a "look how much I know about Korean" pissing contest.

Keep it on topic you bunch of show offs.

That's OK, ellen. I really dont mind people wanting to show off. I use that to extract information from them all the time.

generaltojo
Nov 16th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Can you ask your co-worker what the third line is saying in this picture? I know the tops says "Aviv" and the second line is "matzo". The third, its hard to make out, but it says

כשר לפםח

Now

כשר

is "kosher". I just dont know the second word. It's

lamed- pey/fey - mem sofit - chet

This word's got me utterly mystified, especially because of the mem sofit (final mem), which is not final in this instance.

kasher le pesach = kosher for passover.

ZhuBaJie
Nov 16th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

i'm interested in a Hebrew lesson, but nobody has actually typed any Hebrew yet.

שָׁלוֹם!

Hey, you were able to find block Hebrew fonts with vowels? How'd you do that?

BTW, that looks like a badly mangled attempt to write 'shalom!'.

Windows should come with it. i just turned on the Hebrew input method on my computer.

here it is in Farsi.

سلام!

bluejives
Nov 16th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

i'm interested in a Hebrew lesson, but nobody has actually typed any Hebrew yet.

שָׁלוֹם!

Hey, you were able to find block Hebrew fonts with vowels? How'd you do that?

BTW, that looks like a badly mangled attempt to write 'shalom!'.

Windows should come with it. i just turned on the Hebrew input method on my computer.

here it is in Farsi.

سلام!

You're talking about the "language bar" thingy in XP?

bluejives
Nov 16th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Can you ask your co-worker what the third line is saying in this picture? I know the tops says "Aviv" and the second line is "matzo". The third, its hard to make out, but it says

כשר לפםח

Now

כשר

is "kosher". I just dont know the second word. It's

lamed- pey/fey - mem sofit - chet

This word's got me utterly mystified, especially because of the mem sofit (final mem), which is not final in this instance.

kasher le pesach = kosher for passover.

Excellent, I had suspected that letter was actually a samech and not a mem sofit. Except it looked awful like the final mem.

OK, then it's

pey(digesh present) + probably an "eh" vowel
samech + probably an "ah" vowel
chet
= passover

bluejives
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:51 PM
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/8420/jewishmayhemchickjc0.jpg

Tsadi - Hey - Lamed

ZhuBaJie
Nov 20th, 2006, 03:45 PM
Yeah, this is pretty stupid. And nobody was interested in a Hebrew lesson anyway.

i'm interested in a Hebrew lesson, but nobody has actually typed any Hebrew yet.

שָׁלוֹם!

Hey, you were able to find block Hebrew fonts with vowels? How'd you do that?

BTW, that looks like a badly mangled attempt to write 'shalom!'.

Windows should come with it. i just turned on the Hebrew input method on my computer.

here it is in Farsi.

سلام!

You're talking about the "language bar" thingy in XP?

yeah, go to Control Panel -> Regional and Language Options. there should be a tab that'll let you add new language input methods and displays. sometimes in the US, factory installed Windows OS might not have Asian or Middle Eastern languages installed. but i make sure they're all installed on my computers.