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seoulbrotherno1
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:45 AM
I know, Italians are White people, but damn! That's some good food right there. I attribute it to the fact that the Moors occupied Sicily for a couple hundred of years (not to mention their Egyptian / Pheonican contributions to their culture!)

Anyways, political contradictions aside, seoulbrother can really get down with some Italian food. Here is his recipe for a sure-shot, can't-miss tomato sauce:

Ingredients: (Remember the QUALITY of ingredients makes all the difference with your food. No amount of magic is gonna dress up your shit ingredients, so start investing in some sea salt and a pepper mill...)

2 Cans of Tomatos (the cans I get here are 800 grams. Fresh tomatoes are better if they are in season)
1 Yellow Onion
1 Assload of Garlic (fresh! not garlic powder! and make sure it is finely chopped! Do no use a press!)
Salt and Pepper to taste
Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Butter
Freshly Grated Parmesean Cheese (Riggiano, not Kraft)
Basil (get the fresh stuff if you can, but the dried stuff is permissable...)
Tomato Paste

Optional ingredients:
Bay Leaf
Siracha Chili-Garlic Sauce

Heat up a skillet and coat it with butter. Toss your chopped onions in there and saute until they are nice and brown. Add about half of your garlic into the mix and keep things moving -you don't want to burn your garlic! (Feel free to toss a little bit of sherry or wine (or even water) to cool down the pan a little bit if your garlic is getting too brown.) After warming your garlic up, take the pan off the heat.

Open your cans of tomatos and chuck it into a big mixing bowl. Roll up your sleeves and squish the tomatoes in between your fingers until everything is broken up into a fine pulp. You shouldn't have any big ol' chunks of tomato floating around.

Chuck your tomatos into a big-ass pot. I cook all my shit on high heat, but you can put it at medium if you don't like to live dangerously. Add your onions and garlic. Simmer, simmer, simmer. (Make sure you stir!)

Add salt and pepper to taste. Next add the basil (finely chopped) and throw a couple bay leafs in there for good measure.

By this time, your sauce should be simmering pretty well, and there shouldn't be much evidence left of solid tomatos in your pot. Everything should have boilded down to a watery orange-red mush. If you taste it now, it'll be watery, but not really tomato-y.

So here comes the secret weapon: tomato paste.

Tomato paste will provide a strong tomato flavor to your sauce, it will make your sauce more red (instead of that orange color) and it will thicken your sauce. I add about two big-ass spoonfuls, but you'll have to play with the quantities.

Taste, taste taste!

By this time, you'll have a sharp, tomato-y sauce. You should have enough basil to taste it now as you are testing the sauce. If you can't taste it, add more. The flavor of the sauce should be a little acidic. (You can add the Siracha Chili Garlic Sauce now as well -just a little bit, not too much because it'll take over the whole sauce. You just want to give it a subtle "bite.")

Next, add some olive oil. Olive oil will impart its own flavor in addition to serving as a medium in which to blend all of the flavors.

Taste again.

Now the sauce will have a slightly different character, but it'll still be sharp. Gradually add the grated parmesean cheese -maybe a handful or so. Keep tasting as you add the cheese. The cheese should kill all of the acidity of the sauce.

Taste.

At this time the sauce will be pretty good, but something will be missing. Add the last of your fresh garlic until the flavor is complete. If it still isn't right, check the salt and pepper. If that doesn't work, call Dominos.

This sauce is a bit thick and works best with shaped noodles. I like it with farfelle bows or penne.

I will also give a recipe for making pasta below (even though it is stupid-easy, so many people get it wrong!)

Ingredients:
Pasta
Water
Salt

You should have 3 to 4 times more water than your pasta. Make sure you fill up a big ass-pan with water and add salt. For pasta, the quality of salt doesn't matter, so go ahead and break out your Morton's. Your water should taste like briney sea-water. MAKE SURE YOU PROPERLY SALT THE WATER! This is the only opportunity you'll have to flavor the pasta itself.

When the water is boiling add your pasta and boil until just the tiniest bit in the center is still raw. (It'll look lighter on the inside than the outside of the noodle). Drain.

WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES RINSE!!! Your pasta should have a nice salty flavor to it now. If you rinse your pasta, all of the flavor you added to it will get sucked right out. Your pasta will keep cooking because it is hot, but that is okay, because we took it off while it is still a little bit raw. Don't worry if your pasta is a little bit sticky at this point -it is supposed to be. Once you add it to the sauce, the excess, sticky starch will help the sauce stick to the noodle.

Do not oversauce your pasta. Your pasta should be coated with sauce, not swimming in it. Believe it or not, pasta is about the flavor of the PASTA not the sauce. If you can't taste the flavor of the pasta, you have too much sauce.

sb1

blockthebox
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:19 PM
I don't doubt the tastiness of your recipe, sb1, but I have to know - am I the *ONLY* person who hates Italian food? I just about gag every time I walk by an Italian restaurant or pizza place. The smell makes me retch. There's gotta be something Italian that I can enjoy.

cattygurl
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:24 PM
I prefer Dave's Insanity to any other hot sauce for providing heat without altering the overall flavor of the sauce.

It's so frikkin' hot that you don't need much to get heat- most other hot sauces aren't hot enough, so once you add enough to get the heat you want, the vinegar content in the hot sauce can wreck the overall flavor.

BTB, several friends can't ahdnle italian food- one of them hates tomatoes, and the other two just don't care for garlic.

maogirl
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:34 PM
sb1, if it makes you feel better, tomato was not introduced into italy for a while until the french had already incorporated it into their cuisine. the italians believed that the tomato (which was then imported from south/central america) was poisonous, and they were basically waiting for the french to drop dead.

when the french survived, the italians then decided that tomatoes weren't so bad after all.

this was told to me by my butcher in italy. he was a really nice guy.


I don't doubt the tastiness of your recipe, sb1, but I have to know - am I the *ONLY* person who hates Italian food? I just about gag every time I walk by an Italian restaurant or pizza place. The smell makes me retch. There's gotta be something Italian that I can enjoy.

i think i'm in love with you!

i don't really like pasta and i'm iffy on pizza, but i survived in italy eating the more "exotic" food such as trippa fiorentina (florentine tripe which is basically tripe simmered in a tomato sauce, parmesan cheese and various herbs sauce), crostini con fegato di pollo (which is basically a fancy name for chicken liver spread on bread...it takes about a bottle of olive oil to make a batch...delicious), ribolleta (soup made from leftover bread and beans), and the sausages. oh, and the delicious cow and lamb brains...i had lamb brain in a pita once at an arab place in florence, so delish


edited to add:

i should've said, when the french didn't drop dead, the italians decided that tomato wasn't so bad after all, except for the fact that it didn't kill the french off.

cattygurl
Jan 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM
I am an equal opportunity noodle and pasta lover. I love noodles of all shapes and sizes, from flat sheets used for won tons all the way to little orichettes.

I had a lot of italian kids in my childhood. In NJ, my school district had a large italian and jewish population, so I got my matzo ball soup fetish from my jewish friends, and my pasta/pizza/bread fetish from my italian friends.My chinese friend is responsible for my dumpling and won ton soup fetish. Her mom used to make the best won ton soups! I never had real won ton soup until I went over to her house and I was blown away completely.

Back in Tennessee, the jews, the catholics, atheists, anyone "inappropriately" effeminate or butch and agnostics were all ostracized, so we all hung out together. There were three italian-catholic families (the mom of one of the families was my piano teacher) that made the best foods.

seoulbrotherno1
Jan 16th, 2006, 09:29 PM
BTB,

I think that you are the first person I know who can't handle Italian food. Maybe it is the fragrant herbs? Are you one of those Coreans who think that cilantro tastes like soap?

Oh yeah, and MG, I read that many Europeans in general thought that the tomato was poisonous because it was related to a poisonous plant called "nightshade." Nightshade is a muscle relaxant. It'll kill you in the same way a barbituate overdose will. European women used to dap and extract of this poison into their eyes because it would cause their pupils to dilate and stay dilated (that whole "anime" look).

Anyways, if standard Italian cuisine (tomato sauces) aren't your thing, carbonara is a really good alternative. When I say "carbonara," please don't think of those nasty, creamy sauces. That shit is not carbonara in my book.

Basic Carbonara

2 eggs
Bacon
Fresh Cracked Black Pepper
Fresh Grated Parmesean Cheese

Traditional carbonara recipes use left over bacon fat, but that just seems way too unhealthy. Instead I toss out the bacon fat and I'll coat the bottom of a pan with olive oil. Make sure your pan isn't too hot, or you'll end up frying your noodles (that's a different recipe). Throw your noodles in there and add two beaten eggs. Mix the eggs around until the noodles are completely coated. Toss in your crumbled bacon and parmesean cheese. Mix everything around until it is well-distributed in the noodles.

Your egg mixture will look like "scrambled eggs" here and there, but for the most part, the eggs will coat the noodles and cook from the heat retained inside the noodle. Just keep the noodle on the heat and keep stirring them around to make sure that you are not frying your noodles.

Usually the bacon and the parmesean has enough salt in it for the whole dish, but if it is lacking at the end, feel free to add more. Finish the dish with a healthy dose of fresh cracked black pepper. Toss into a bowl and you are good to go.

sb1

kimtae
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:24 PM
AHAHAHAAA, I'm just laughing cuz SB1 measured out his ingredients AHAHAHAAA

maogirl
Jan 17th, 2006, 08:38 AM
^^:lol:



BTB,

I think that you are the first person I know who can't handle Italian food. Maybe it is the fragrant herbs? Are you one of those Coreans who think that cilantro tastes like soap?

hmm, my dad doesn't like italian food either. it makes him irregular. he's the only person i know who packed a rice cooker and a bag of rice when he and my mom went to europe.


ps bacon fat is good! don't hate! :cry:

DijabutiA
Jan 17th, 2006, 11:42 AM
My mom makes AWESOME tomato sauce, and I LOVE IT!

She just uses canned tomato sauce (just plain tomatoes) with tomato paste, salt and pepper, onion powder, olive oil, and bay leaves. And then cook for 2 hours. I think she throws in garlic too, maybe powder?

Damn, that is some awesome sauce, I can eat it with a spoon.

Charlie
Jan 17th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Just thought I'd mention that the quality of the pasta makes a huge difference in taste and texture. Don't use the cheap stuff. I think Barilla is good, but I use the stuff from Costco, which is also good.

I always add some chili powder to my sauce to give it a little punch. It doesn't seem to change the flavor much.

cattygurl
Jan 17th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Barilla and De Cecco are both major brands that are good. Barilla has alternative pastas (those with higher protein content) that is quite delicious. When it comes to plain pasta, I prefer De Cecco over Barilla, but barely. Trader Joe's pasta has been really good (kudos to their whole wheat pasta for being fantastic). Costco's pasta has also been high quality.

blockthebox
Jan 17th, 2006, 10:24 PM
i don't really like pasta and i'm iffy on pizza, but i survived in italy eating the more "exotic" food such as trippa fiorentina (florentine tripe which is basically tripe simmered in a tomato sauce, parmesan cheese and various herbs sauce), crostini con fegato di pollo (which is basically a fancy name for chicken liver spread on bread...it takes about a bottle of olive oil to make a batch...delicious), ribolleta (soup made from leftover bread and beans), and the sausages. oh, and the delicious cow and lamb brains...i had lamb brain in a pita once at an arab place in florence, so delish

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. I *heart* anything with liver and brains.


BTB,

I think that you are the first person I know who can't handle Italian food. Maybe it is the fragrant herbs? Are you one of those Coreans who think that cilantro tastes like soap?

Tsk, tsk. I'm a complicated person, thus it follows that my dislike for Italian food is complicated too. To break it down - (1) I don't like the way they do noodles and (2) Although I adore fragrant herbs, especially cilantro, I don't like the combination of Italian noodles + herbs + tomato + sauce. Blech.