Evangelical Environmentalists

[Sothy]

This story is a few days old, but I have found myself reading it twice already. I think this development is fantastic personally, and coupled with Tony Blair's decision to try and be a bridge between Europe and America (whereas I just thought he made bad decisions at times before), it might just make a difference...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4642241.stm

[cattygurl]

Awesome reporting.

It's still a pretty rare part of the evangelical population. Interestingly, you will see a there is a minority (a very small one) of eco-conscious ppl on the right, in some respects. I knew some skinheads (ugh) that were serious environmentalists and "back to nature" people. A lot of the super right survivalist people also have some green leanings. OTOH, some anti-gas guzzing people use anti-muslic rhetoric to get their viewpoint across, which I can't agree with.

Dammit, why can't people be satisfied with the logic and science of the matter? Fuck.

[Dialectic]

This is a terrific article and development, and a very powerful solution, or at least foundation of a solution, which addresses the environmental crisis in the face of Blue-Orange political dominance. Just awesome, and something Orange/Green would probably not have conceived, let alone implemented (I certainly didn't).

[da Tao]

I read something about this trend a few months back (on the Economist maybe?) and the issue was the Alaska wildlife reserve drilling (I think)... and then I thought, "Gee, that very nice and clever... and it makes sense."

But while it is clever, I don't see it as a breakthough in how the world works. Both "conservatives" and "liberals" have been joining forces over a number of issues as of late. To me, if you want something done, it is logical to reinterpret your agenda in accordance to the worldview of others partners you need. And if you can't be overt about it, just get a small cabal of people and start pulling strings behind the scenes.

As for what Catty said, why people can't just decide on the basis of hard science... and the reason is that methodology will inevitably be applied to other types of questions and eventually intrude / debunk their value-based stance. Therefore, "faith" must be an integral part of their problem-solving process... hence "What would Jesus drive?"

(This somehow reminds me of an article on ChristiansAnswers.net that I can't find anymore... basically it asks if babies can be saved because they weren't developed enough to have any concepts... and it basically said the logical interpretation means they won't, but since god is merciful they will.)

So in a manner of speaking, you have to get a man to think "Yes, this is the correct choice" to many different aspects before you can secure/extract his compliance.