Lambda Phi Epsilon Here

[lambdaphiepsilon]

Hi, just wanted to introduce myself. My name is John and I am a member of Lambda Phi Epsilon, Delta Chapter from UC Berkeley. We are the only nationally recognized Asian American fraternity in the United States.

I understand that the founder of this board banned a certain member Three_Kingdoms. This happens to be one of my closest friends from high school. Our fraternity owes a debt of gratitude to him because when some of our members from SF State and UC Davis had their lives threatened by a dangerous Asian gang from San Francisco, he helped us out and organized a truce with them. He did this out of his friendship with me.

From what I understand, he was banned because the ladies on this board liked him more than they did the administrator of this board. And this caused some amount of jealousy from the admin.

I know my boy. He is very proud of Asians, he is not someone I would want to fuck with, let alone ban for some stupid reason. I am personally going to be looking at some of his posts, and decide whether or not it was justified to ban him.

Upon my decision, I will call on all of our national alumni and members to ban this website and all members affiliated with this website otherwise from doing business with them in the future. It is the least that our fraternity can do for him.

Good day.

[ellencho]

Is this 3kkk trying to be funny?

[awong]

Is this 3kkk trying to be funny?
lol probably.
I never knew he could clean up his grammar!

[lambdaphiepsilon]

No this is not three kingdoms. He aimed me this morning very pissed about being banned from this website. And yes, I agree with you his aim conversations are full of grammar mistakes. lol

[chronix]

i don't think three kingdoms sould have banned either, however what you're saying is the stupidest shit i've ever heard. you're going to mobilize your fraternity against a pro-asian activism website? just because a friend got banned?

first off, get a life. secondly, go right ahead. this threat is so full of bullshit i can smell it all the way here on the east coast. i'm sorry but lambdas boycotting the site? wow. woopty f*cking doo.

i happen to be a national board member of another asian fraternity, the one who has the east coast on lock. so go ahead. ban this board.
it'll just demonstrate to everyone in the asian american community what your organization is really all about.

[cattygurl]

I'm sure the guy's in for hours of beely-achin' entertainment (meaning reading 3k's posts).

[lambdaphiepsilon]

Chronix. Have you heard of Alam Kim? He was a Lambda in San Jose who passed away during an unfortunate encounter another Asian fraternity. It was a very regrettable incident. I do not seek to have another encounter like that. Nor would any fraternity member who loves his fraternity.

However, I am interested in your opinion regarding the matter. I will send you a PM regarding this incident with three kingdoms.

[The Ram]

lambdaphiepsilon,

I understand you are close friend and ally 3k.

Many of us here on this forum genuinely like 3k.

But isn't the last thing we need is more division among Asians?

No, 3k did not get banned because the
administrator became jealous of how all
the girls favored him.

This site is of the highest quality, aesthetically & intent-wise.

There is absolutely nothing like it, NOTHING.

Why should anybody be dragged into this when
it is strictly an issue between 3k and Dialectic?

[minbo]

Hello John,

Let me say right out that I'm a member of this board and don't in any way representthe management here.

Now that that's over, from what I can tell, you don't represent Lambda Phie Epsilon of UC Berkeley either. At least there is no John of any kind listed in UC Berkeley's chapter as part of the executive committee or the officers. For that matter the only John that I can sort of see in the roster is Johnny Guo, Fall 2001. If that is you than the hightst posistion you had was Lil Sis Chair 2003-2004. Pr perhaps John Kim spring 2002 with no major positions?

There is no John of any kind for the National board of directors either.

Perhaps before you drop the name of your frat and try to throw it's weight around you should
a) investigate the situation to at least sort of get a feel for the situation and facts, then
b) get some sort of backing from those that do represent your organization prior to making threats

Because if I was an officer of the frat, I'd be pretty pissed off that someone potentially compromised it's reputation by using it's good name in an attempt to bully a group of people over a personal dispute on the side of someone who was not a frat member. But that could be just me.

[da Tao]

Why should anybody be dragged into this when it is strictly an issue between 3k and Dialectic?

But it is not. This goes beyond Dialectic, and has been for some time now. Yes, he has a large role in making this - what you see here - happen, and yes he is the primary source of order here. But once enough of you joined and shared in the vision, it becomes its own.

So rather it is an issue between the integrity of that vision and the events that would undermine it. Take away Dialectic, take away 3K, would the same thing not happen here?

[rainshowerz]

Why should anybody be dragged into this when
it is strictly an issue between 3k and Dialectic?
I know I haven't been writing much during the last couple of weeks, but I've been actively reading all the posts here.

In all my time at this site (and I guess I'm one of those old-timers), there has NEVER been an instance where D or any of the vanguard here have acted out against anyone because of some personal beef. The only "preferential treatment" that I've seen from D are the multiple posts about Integral Dynamics, since it seems like he's the only vanguard that's interested in it (no offense, man).

3k's ban goes beyond one person's issue, and while it's nice that a lot of people are advocating for 3k to stay and/or disagreeing with the decision to ban him, there are probably an equal number of people that feel differently. I've never witnessed any of the vanguard, even someone as volatile (but lovable) as Tojo, ban anyone without considering the integrity of the site, so I have no reason to suspect that it's anything but that with 3kkk.

[Jayth]

As I don't know 3k very well, coupled with the fact that I haven't been here very long, I was going to keep out of the whole situation entirely. I don't know exactly what 3k said nor do I know the whole story.

This, however, is my point exactly. Lamda, while we all applaud your decision to stand by your friend, I would hope that you've taken into account the fact that anything 3k has told you is strictly his side of the story. Before you go making any threats or decisions, you really should find out for yourself what went on.

Incidentally, I'm just curious as to why you decided to post your message where the entire forum could see it, rather than just contacting D privately.

[Dialectic]

From what I understand, he was banned because the ladies on this board liked him more than they did the administrator of this board. And this caused some amount of jealousy from the admin.

HAHAHA!!! This is too much. This almost makes me want to take 3k back. Almost.

Actually I'm lying. It confirms that we did the right thing in the first place.

If you really are a lambda phi epsilon rep, that's a shame 'cause I thought frat brothers weren't supposed to lie to each other and manipulate emotions.

You really wanna know why he was banned? I've given my reasoning over and over in Fight Club.

[Dialectic]

Hey 3k, you shouldn't've lied to your buddy like that. You shouldn't've slandered us like that. This shit just proves my point about your penchant for irrelevant and deceptive bullshit.

[ZhuBaJie]

woop di doo. a bunch of Asian frat boys aren't going to come on this site. now if a bunch of Asian sorority girls are boycotting this site, then we'd have a crisis on our hands.

[Dialectic]

In all my time at this site (and I guess I'm one of those old-timers), there has NEVER been an instance where D or any of the vanguard here have acted out against anyone because of some personal beef. The only "preferential treatment" that I've seen from D are the multiple posts about Integral Dynamics, since it seems like he's the only vanguard that's interested in it (no offense, man).

With regard to the "preferential treatment," that's given to subject matter, not people. Also, I could've done it sneakily and covertly, but hey at least I just came right out and made a forum and showed my colors. Also, Lopan's interested in it too, but hasn't done much reading yet.

woop di doo. a bunch of Asian frat boys aren't going to come on this site. now if a bunch of Asian sorority girls are boycotting this site, then we'd have a crisis on our hands.

I would hope that no one boycott's this site as a result of 3k's lying. Frat boys are welcome if they are intelligent, respectful, and witty. Same goes with sorority girls, particularly if they bring photos.

[Dialectic]

Now that that's over, from what I can tell, you don't represent Lambda Phie Epsilon of UC Berkeley either. At least there is no John of any kind listed in UC Berkeley's chapter as part of the executive committee or the officers. For that matter the only John that I can sort of see in the roster is Johnny Guo, Fall 2001. If that is you than the hightst posistion you had was Lil Sis Chair 2003-2004. Pr perhaps John Kim spring 2002 with no major positions?

There is no John of any kind for the National board of directors either.

I just checked that shit too. So are you Johnny Guo, John Kim, or someone not on the site?

[awong]

lol, another member and I did the same thing too and looked at which members were there.

[.vhg//ALITA]

Honestly, mobilizing an entire frat against the forum isn't going to do any good, like the others say. Not only that, it's a bit ironic that you're going to mobilize an Asian fraternity against a pro-AA rights site, as stated in an earlier post.

A lot of us didn't agree with the banning. There were others who did, but in the end the admins did what they believed was right, even if a lot of us didn't think it was the right thing to do. I know you wanna stand by your boy, but this isn't the way to go.

Not only that, if you talked to D about it, he might give you some insight on his side of the story *shrug* I, on my own representation, wish that he hadn't been banned. For a lot of the idiot things he did, there was still some stuff that he did on the other side of the spectrum that made me realize that he wasn't such a bad guy, and that's why I wish he wasn't banned.

Like I said though, that was the decision of the admins...so yeah. =/

[Dialectic]

A lot of us didn't agree with the banning. There were others who did, but in the end the admins did what they believed was right, even if a lot of us didn't think it was the right thing to do. I know you wanna stand by your boy, but this isn't the way to go.

There are also more people than you may think who did. Got a few emails on it too.

Not only that, if you talked to D about it, he might give you some insight on his side of the story *shrug* I, on my own representation, wish that he hadn't been banned. For a lot of the idiot things he did, there was still some stuff that he did on the other side of the spectrum that made me realize that he wasn't such a bad guy, and that's why I wish he wasn't banned.

My "side" of the story is all over the board. It's clear as day. And also, I agree that he "wasn't such a bad guy"; that was never the issue. There's two ways a man can fuck up the world: by being malicious, and by being dumb. It doesn't take both.

[JadeDragon]

Just to be facetious, I could get my friend to mobilise HER sorority against Lambda Phi Epsilon, even though hers is in Houston. :roll:

[Dialectic]

HAHA!! That's it, we're turning ALL the Asians against each other!

A last, serious word from me about this 3k incident.

It's been called to my attention that lpe might actually be 3k: he's used the "girls like me more than the mods and they're jealous" argument at mm.com before, there are similarities in their writing style, and we know 3k has a penchant for repeating stories long after he's first told them (the showing up a White boy in the gym, for example). We have no proof of this, however, and I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt. Either way, he's sure to get this message:

You're a fucking snake, 3k. We all know the real reason you're gone, and though some disagree with the rationale, it's clear as fucking day. This bullshit you're pulling: this is final proof that we don't need you here. We don't tolerate snakes.

[awong]

here is another thing.

3kkk uses "good day" too in the end of his arguments too sometimes

[Taliesin Stormheller]

Lambda,
You have got to see beyond this situation and realize that all us Asians need to unite against the greater enemy, white racism. I mean, this is a WEBSITE fer gosh sakes. I like 3K, I did not want to see him banned, but some people didn't like him. I know guys who are Lambdas here in NY and they support the view points of me and my friends, which are in concordance with those on the site.
Stop the infighting, Asian Pride and Asian Unity.

[YellowMindTricks]

I'm from Lambda Lambda Lambda... and I don't know what the heck happened, but you know this isn't 3k's board.. So whats appropriate for this board is solely up to the discretion of its owners.. we agreed to a certain disclaimer when we registered... remember? So lets just squash it... If your still upset... start your own board...

[xian]

This thread has really pissed me off!

My urgent question is, "If D is banning people just because they are more popular with women than him, how in the fuck is it that any of us can still log on?"

[AngryEthiopian]

This thread has really pissed me off!

My urgent question is, "If D is banning people just because they are more popular with women than him, how in the fuck is it that any of us can still log on?"
LMAO. The guy hasn't responded, so maybe he read the board and realized the ban was righteous?
I really don't have a beef with 3k, but I'm not going to advocate unbanning him.
We know he was ethnocentric, and for me, that's enough to allow him to be gone. The 44s is about progress as a whole, not as a small country. We've got peeps in Australia, UK, US all over, so how does it look to have some ethnocentric shit spewing all over the board?

[I Eat Baby Seals]

Not to stray off topic, but IMO Lambda Phi Epsilon is just about the worst thing that could happen to the 44 cause. Just imagine a bunch of apparently pre-pubescent little boys running around trying to act hard near their rice rockets while their cookie cutter girlfriends/ Kdphi Sorority sisters (all dressed in black, mind you) follow in tow, squealing like so many mice while clutching their sanrio dolls.

Yep, just about the largest gathering of pansies in the United States.

I do admit that they bring any interesting twist to the whole frat thing (from when I was in college) in that a party for 400 people with a 90% inebriation rate can be thrown with only 2 wine coolers and a single MGD.

[lambdaphiepsilon]

You're a fucking snake, 3k. We all know the real reason you're gone, and though some disagree with the rationale, it's clear as fucking day. This bullshit you're pulling: this is final proof that we don't need you here. We don't tolerate snakes.

Its not good etiquette to talk bad about someone when they are not here to defend themself. In my judgement, after looking at all the posts, this was more about personal jealousy.

In that poll where the vote took place to ban three kingdoms, (obviously its gone now because you deleted it) but you wrote about how three kingdoms may act cute and it might grow on you, but everyone should reject it or something to that effect.

The tone in which you wrote that did not seem like the rantings of an objective topic coordinator ( you wrote that he went off topic too many times). You wrote it in a way that clearly showed that it was more about jealousy than about Asian brotherhood and empowerment. I know my boy. He was always the type to let the guys who didn't have girls get first dibs when some fine honeys came along. You went overboard. Although three kingdoms told me to forget about doing anything about this, it pains me because he was such a powerful force in dealing with Asian American rights and issues, as well as minority struggles, it is something that the Asian community will miss out on, all because of the jealousy of one man.

My motto is that Asian brotherhood is first and foremost and holds priority when it comes to swallowing your pride for the right cause. And it goes against my core belief to oust someone even when everyone votes against it, just for the sake of getting more attention from girls. This is evident in the tone of your previous posts. It may be your board, but there must be judgement from the community for actions that are detrimental because by extension, this is everyone's board.

I have spoken with some brothers starting up a chapter at the University of Toronto. It is highly advised that you should steer clear from speaking bad of Lambda Phi Epsilon and our beliefs ever again. This is my last post.

Brotherhood first. Peace.

[kalbi]

I have spoken with some brothers starting up a chapter at the University of Toronto. It is highly advised that you should steer clear from speaking bad of Lambda Phi Epsilon and our beliefs ever again. This is my last post.

Brotherhood first. Peace.



That's not a brotherhood, "bro". That's a fucking GANG.

[JadeDragon]

The tone in which you wrote that did not seem like the rantings of an objective topic coordinator ( you wrote that he went off topic too many times). You wrote it in a way that clearly showed that it was more about jealousy than about Asian brotherhood and empowerment. I know my boy. He was always the type to let the guys who didn't have girls get first dibs when some fine honeys came along. You went overboard. Although three kingdoms told me to forget about doing anything about this, it pains me because he was such a powerful force in dealing with Asian American rights and issues, as well as minority struggles, it is something that the Asian community will miss out on, all because of the jealousy of one man.

My motto is that Asian brotherhood is first and foremost and holds priority when it comes to swallowing your pride for the right cause. And it goes against my core belief to oust someone even when everyone votes against it, just for the sake of getting more attention from girls. This is evident in the tone of your previous posts. It may be your board, but there must be judgement from the community for actions that are detrimental because by extension, this is everyone's board.

Perhaps you should read through all of three_kingdoms' posts (and all our replies) before jumping to conclusions. I never saw any jealousy on Dialectic's part regarding three_kingdom's alleged popularity with the female members of this board either. Plus, if three_kingdoms truly cares about Asian-American rights/issues and minority struggles, I'd say keep up the good work and not let his anger/prejudices cloud his judgement.

[Dialectic]

I have spoken with some brothers starting up a chapter at the University of Toronto. It is highly advised that you should steer clear from speaking bad of Lambda Phi Epsilon and our beliefs ever again. This is my last post.

Brotherhood first. Peace.

A threat and then a "Peace" huh? For an LPE rep, you're not saying much for their morality.

I don't take this guy to be representative of LPE in any way. I'm sure they're a bunch of cool guys, and what they're trying to do is admirable.

[Dialectic]

Email I received from 3kingdoms. His words are black, mine are blue italicized.

hey dialectic,

Hey man. You can have all the girls.

You gotta be kidding if you think this is the reason you were banned.

I don't really care about them. You can't deny that I contributed the most to the Asian American issues that were afflicting society today. Especially in situations like Vang and Black Asian relations.

Quality, not quantity.

I never wanted to break up your 4 faction vision or whatever you wanted. When it comes down to it, I just wanted to put my perspective in on AA issues. I was never a major hater of AF/WM.

Never said you were a hater.

I just wanted to unite all minorities and provide an anti stereotype to the traditional geeky Asian male. If you thought that my posts got too "cute" or "inane" for your liking, then really, I have nothing more to say to you.

You still haven't understood the criticisms.

latez.

Latez.

[angi]

You can settle it once and for all by asking the girls themselves who they prefer. I think when the results are in, it would be readily apparant that D has nothing to be jealous about ;)

[stimozi]

whats all this bs

im a bro of lambda phi epsilon too and i hate no one :x

[Dialectic]

And we don't hate lambda phi either. We really like the fraternities and sororities, actually.

This "threekingdoms" guy was a snake and got his buddy to threaten the 44s and me personally. I actually tried to resolve things with him and even offer him his own crazy section of the forum, but never received a response, and considering now, I'm glad I didn't.

Welcome to the 44s, by the way! Glad you're aboard.

[Scowl]

Although three kingdoms told me to forget about doing anything about this, it pains me because he was such a powerful force in dealing with Asian American rights and issues, as well as minority struggles, it is something that the Asian community will miss out on, all because of the jealousy of one man.

I just caught this, I can't believe I missed it before.