Dialectic
Oct 30th, 2004, 11:38 AM
This forum is always at risk of degrading in one of two ways:
1) The dumbass bigots make it into a woman-hating, non-Asian hating, China/Korea/whatever-loving shithole. Much has been said about these men (and they're almost always men).
2) The dumbass P.C. bitches make it into a hypersensitive, developmental psychology-hating, peace-love-one-with-the-universe-never-say-or-do-a-"bad"-thing shithole. Not as much has been said about these men and women.
(And no, no one is just a bigot asshole or a P.C. motherfucker, everyone has complexity and depth and blah blah blah ....)
As the dumbass bigots have been abused and decimated and have only just managed to maintain a scraggly resistance in a few of the Hundred Flowers Forums, I'm going to take a moment to address the P.C. bitches.
From day one, one of our central aims was to stir shit up. We are taking something like an Eminem approach to this shit: attack through Art. Spit everything inside you, the joy, the rage, the hate, the sadness, the addiction, the loneliness, the ecstasy, and don't give a fuck what people think. Don't try to enforce some ideology, and don't riddle Artistic pieces with blatant morality and causes and crusades.
But IN DOING SO, in stirring shit up and baring your soul, you AUTOMATICALLY and INTRINSICALLY become an advocate, but not a dumbass lame one. Look at what Eminem ultimately stands for: he's a voice of the outcast, a voice of poverty, a voice of revolution, a voice of racial equality. He said shit he didn't necessarily mean, 'cause people say shit they don't necessarily mean. A lot of people called his work sexist, misgynistic, homophobic, but he has proven time again that he is not: he's a caring father, he is back with the woman he so loved and hated (and never abused), and he and Elton John did Stan together, which was more than just a marketing ploy, but a statement that he didn't actually hate gays, and at least some gays understood that.
And now look at him: he actually has the potential to be a force for change. Anyone who has listened to or watched the "Mosh" video understands that. I view Matt Stone and Trey Parker the same way.
The only way Art has legitimacy and credibility is if people believe you're not trying to spread some inflexible ideology. A lot of you would love to see a movie with a heroic, charming, attractive, dashing Asian male who saves the day and gets the girl and anything that offers less than that (we even heard bitching about Harold and Kumar here!) is racist or disappointing or not good enough. I'm telling you right now that if someone makes that movie, and makes it with that as a primary goal, that movie is going to be GARBAGE because it's going to be so riddled with a political agenda that it's going to be like watching a propaganda reel: it won't get respect, just like women-power movies don't get wide respect, just like Black-power movies don't get wide respect.
There's gotta be a genuine story, there's gotta be legitimacy and emotional sincerity and intelligence and skillful execution.
So bigots and bitches and remember: racism is not cool, but P.C. is just as retarded. Think bigger.
1) The dumbass bigots make it into a woman-hating, non-Asian hating, China/Korea/whatever-loving shithole. Much has been said about these men (and they're almost always men).
2) The dumbass P.C. bitches make it into a hypersensitive, developmental psychology-hating, peace-love-one-with-the-universe-never-say-or-do-a-"bad"-thing shithole. Not as much has been said about these men and women.
(And no, no one is just a bigot asshole or a P.C. motherfucker, everyone has complexity and depth and blah blah blah ....)
As the dumbass bigots have been abused and decimated and have only just managed to maintain a scraggly resistance in a few of the Hundred Flowers Forums, I'm going to take a moment to address the P.C. bitches.
From day one, one of our central aims was to stir shit up. We are taking something like an Eminem approach to this shit: attack through Art. Spit everything inside you, the joy, the rage, the hate, the sadness, the addiction, the loneliness, the ecstasy, and don't give a fuck what people think. Don't try to enforce some ideology, and don't riddle Artistic pieces with blatant morality and causes and crusades.
But IN DOING SO, in stirring shit up and baring your soul, you AUTOMATICALLY and INTRINSICALLY become an advocate, but not a dumbass lame one. Look at what Eminem ultimately stands for: he's a voice of the outcast, a voice of poverty, a voice of revolution, a voice of racial equality. He said shit he didn't necessarily mean, 'cause people say shit they don't necessarily mean. A lot of people called his work sexist, misgynistic, homophobic, but he has proven time again that he is not: he's a caring father, he is back with the woman he so loved and hated (and never abused), and he and Elton John did Stan together, which was more than just a marketing ploy, but a statement that he didn't actually hate gays, and at least some gays understood that.
And now look at him: he actually has the potential to be a force for change. Anyone who has listened to or watched the "Mosh" video understands that. I view Matt Stone and Trey Parker the same way.
The only way Art has legitimacy and credibility is if people believe you're not trying to spread some inflexible ideology. A lot of you would love to see a movie with a heroic, charming, attractive, dashing Asian male who saves the day and gets the girl and anything that offers less than that (we even heard bitching about Harold and Kumar here!) is racist or disappointing or not good enough. I'm telling you right now that if someone makes that movie, and makes it with that as a primary goal, that movie is going to be GARBAGE because it's going to be so riddled with a political agenda that it's going to be like watching a propaganda reel: it won't get respect, just like women-power movies don't get wide respect, just like Black-power movies don't get wide respect.
There's gotta be a genuine story, there's gotta be legitimacy and emotional sincerity and intelligence and skillful execution.
So bigots and bitches and remember: racism is not cool, but P.C. is just as retarded. Think bigger.