Death Angel!! Brutal Filipino-American thrash!!

[Taliesin Stormheller]

Okay, does anybody else here listen to these guys? They are awesome- and the ONLY all-Asian American metal band to hit the main scene.
Check 'em out at http://www.deathangel.com

[Apollyon]

The only CD that I liked from them was their first one, The Ultra-Violence. But its really good fun stuff.

[blockthebox]

My god ... this takes me back to high school.

[cattygurl]

They're still around? I saw them a while ago (or am I confusing them with another band...). Does anyone remember Tiamat (sp?) or for that matter, GWAR? Gwar put on some cool-ass shows, man.

[Apollyon]

Haha GWAR is funny... But I think all that old metal stuff is pretty well dead. New metal just sucks so badly its not even worth insulting. And there is that weird band from the UK called The Darkness. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. I'm not sure if they are trying to be like Spinal Tap or not....
My fave bands when I was a kid were like Megadeth, Judas Priest, Queensryche, Fates Warning, Dream Theater etc. I didn't know it at the time, but there were quite a number of Asian American musicians in metal bands.

[3line]

You, Apolly, have not been listening to the right metal. Metal never died (look overseas for once), nor is there a thing called "new metal." It's all marketing; it's the hair rock of the 1990s.

But at least hair rock was semi-metal. Nu metal is what people like to call "mallcore," or a bastardized melange of hardcore and hiphop.

This gave me a giggle: http://quizilla.com/users/ragingbill/quizzes/What%20sub-genre%20of%20metal%20(music)%20are%20you%3F/

[Apollyon]

Overseas metal is ok, but I don't enjoy it as much as the older domestic stuff here. Some foreign bands that I really used to like were Loudness, Yngwie Malmsteen and Accept. Isn't the mallcore stuff what ppl call new metal? I am talking about crap like Papa Roach etc. It just sounds like old metal kinda, much less talented, and with no guitar solos.

[3line]

Overseas metal is ok, but I don't enjoy it as much as the older domestic stuff here. Some foreign bands that I really used to like were Loudness, Yngwie Malmsteen and Accept. Isn't the mallcore stuff what ppl call new metal? I am talking about crap like Papa Roach etc. It just sounds like old metal kinda, much less talented, and with no guitar solos.

I think you have to listen just a tad more carefully. One of the prerequisites of metal is strong lead guitar, something that is noticeably absent from these mallcore bands. They barely even have riffs; most of the stuff they play is the single powerchord slamming that was so prominent with hardcore. It's like saying punk rock and metal are the same because they both have distorted guitars. Either the industry's brainwashed you into thinking that mallcore is the descendant of metal, or you were never that much into it in the first place. You do like Loudness, a hair band, after all. In any case, the metal scene was always much bigger overseas than in the USA.

[Apollyon]

Of course I know about metal, I play metal guitar. My guitar influences are Eddie Van Halen, Yngwie Malmsteen, Randy Rhoads, Joe Satriani etc. And no, I haven't listened to mallcore crap because its crap. I THOUGHT it was called new metal because thats what I have heard it referred to as on music video shows etc. These bands have no talent at all, their vocals are as bland and uninspiring as their guitar. I don't care what its labelled as it is just crap. And what is wrong with hair metal? Akira Takasaki is one of the greatest metal guitarists, and Loudness is respected as a great band worldwide. Metal isn't just thrash and black metal etc. I didn't really care what they looked like as much as what they sounded like, its not like I was going to be putting up posters of some guy with an overstuffed crotch wearing tights on my wall. Technical musical expertise and creativity was my interest, and guitarists like Akira Takasaki, Yngwie Malmsteen, Randy Rhoads and Joe Satriani definitely had that. But I am also not interested in arguing about what is metal and what isn't metal as that would form the basis of a very very juvenile conversation indeed. I was just reminiscing about the past and things I used to enjoy.

[3line]

Technical musical expertise and creativity was my interest, and guitarists like Akira Takasaki, Yngwie Malmsteen, Randy Rhoads and Joe Satriani definitely had that.
There you go. Be more precise in your terminology next time. Not every technical virtuoso is automatically metal, since after all Van Halen ain't metal. Satriani isn't either, but that doesn't diminish his expertise in any way.

If you prefer a more flattering term, I'd call Loudness "arena rock."