View Full Version : Thanks, Makulita!
Dialectic
Sep 27th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Wow Maku, I just read a criticism of our site and your response to it on this forum:
http://www.kanai.net/weblog/archives/002135.html
I know that you posted at Derek Kirk Kim's forum as well, and I just wanna thank you for your support and enthusiasm!!
We need more Makulitas in this world. Everyone get on other (more popular) forums and talk about us. Spread the LOVE!!!
Dialectic
Sep 27th, 2004, 01:34 AM
Oh and because people are lazy and I think it's worth reading, I'll post what went down here. First, a post by "A Private Citizen":
I think it's about time more people addressed this issue. But I myself have been sorely insulted when on a messageboard and I addressed this issue. Most of the asian men, even when I agreed with them had this attitude of If you aren't asian you don't know jack about oppression and media representation. I'm black trust me I know. So I think the asian community should be a little more open about receiving help and support. Instead of just telling everyone who isn't asian to screw off so that they can continue being angry and complaining amongst themselves and patting each other on the back for being angry. Go to www.thefighting44s.com and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's one big angry yellow sausage party and nobody get's anywhere on that site. They spend half the time ragging on asian females who date outside the race, calling the CCB's (Cracker Chasing Bitches) but the men themselves then spend the rest of the time in the forum wondering how to find white women, and where the most white women hang out and what areas do white women date asian guys the most. The guys say they are trying to date white women because of all the asian females dating white boys and if the world sees these asian men with white women it will make the asian men look more human, they say it will humanize them and equalize the disparity of asian women dating white men. But then they say the asian women are wrong for looking to white men for the reasons they do but yet they give equally wrong reasons for wanting to date white women. So I think the asian male has a good point in wanting to be represented better by the media but with sites like the fighting 44's it just brings everything down to a foul mouthed whiner party level. Good luck with the fight brother.
Dialectic
Sep 27th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Maku's response:
In response to "A private citizen"...
I am a member at the site, http://www.thefighting44s.com . And yes, you would be right that this post is going to be a reaction to the predominantly negative portrayal of the Fighting 44s.
So let's get my rebuttal in motion, shall we?
...Yes, actually, you are right. At the first glance The Fighting 44s do come off as one big "angry yellow sausage party". Even my fellow 44s have agreed we come off that way. Yes, there are topics that can more or less be compressed into statements such as "We need to get with white women to even out the AF/WM IR Disparity!", "Where's the highest concentration of AM/WF?" etc. etc. I'd like to point out to everyone that those particular topics DO exist on the fighting 44s website.
BUT!
But, there are also other topics that cover the wide spectrum of injustice. Please, I urge anyone curious enough to visit our website to explore ALL the forums and ALL the threads we have to offer. We have superb topics that explore IN DEPTH the problems that Asian-Americans face in the media, in the public and even in the home. We are not the belligerent, blind-with-rage group of people you mistakely displayed us as. Of course most of us get riled up and then start to rant, rave and bitch about the things that are so very, very wrong in this world. You cannot begrudge us that. Eventually, metaphorically speaking, the steam builds up and you'll find you will have to vent -somewhere-. It happens, and if you're familiar with the fluctuations that happen on EVERY message boards, this is normal. Message boards can go through all kinds of phases in accordance to how their posters are feeling. I can say that you've probably caught us at a bad time. We, too, are fed up with not only "sellout AFs" and "asiaphiles", but we are ALSO fed up with "potential AF sellout"-bashing, "asiaphile"-bashing. Just bashing in generally. We know full and well that doing that is useless, and while we fall into those ruts sometimes, we get right back up and refocus ourselves to a laser point. I'd like to point out that we have a forum on our board called "Declarations of Intent". That in itself can give all readers of our website the TRUE goal and focus of The Fighting 44s website and message board.
Please, I want to remind everyone: Just because your asian significant other says something negative about the opposite gender of their race, does not deem it to be universally true. We are not getting anywhere if asian boyfriends, girlfriends, wives, and husbands are bashing each other to their partners, which in turn the partner spreads to other people.
The emasculation of asian men in the media.
The objectification and exotification of asian women in the media.
Ignorance of the Public.
IR Disparity.
Intra-asian fighting.
THOSE are our enemies. We need to deal with and counter those first. We have no time to bash one another, degrade one another or isolate one another. We need to band together - and we need to band together NOW.
Investigate things for yourselve. Do not rely on others to do it for you.
Sincerely,
Makulita of The Fighting 44s.
Makulita
Sep 28th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Wala anuman! :lol:
Dialectic
Sep 28th, 2004, 02:33 AM
I have NO idea what you kids are talkin' about these days, but I'll say "Thanks" and "You're welcome" and hope that covers it :D
Makulita
Sep 28th, 2004, 02:38 AM
Dude, D, that's what "wala anuman" means. Means "you're welcome". :D
That private citizen foo' just pissed me off, s'why. ...Also pisses me off that I missed the "s" in "yourselves" yet somehow that "s" jumped up to "message boards". Blech. :cry:
Justin
Sep 29th, 2004, 11:30 PM
I think it's about time more people addressed this issue. But I myself have been sorely insulted when on a messageboard and I addressed this issue. Most of the asian men, even when I agreed with them had this attitude of If you aren't asian you don't know jack about oppression and media representation. I'm black trust me I know. So I think the asian community should be a little more open about receiving help and support. Instead of just telling everyone who isn't asian to screw off so that they can continue being angry and complaining amongst themselves and patting each other on the back for being angry. Go to www.thefighting44s.com and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's one big angry yellow sausage party and nobody get's anywhere on that site. They spend half the time ragging on asian females who date outside the race, calling the CCB's (Cracker Chasing Bitches) but the men themselves then spend the rest of the time in the forum wondering how to find white women, and where the most white women hang out and what areas do white women date asian guys the most. The guys say they are trying to date white women because of all the asian females dating white boys and if the world sees these asian men with white women it will make the asian men look more human, they say it will humanize them and equalize the disparity of asian women dating white men. But then they say the asian women are wrong for looking to white men for the reasons they do but yet they give equally wrong reasons for wanting to date white women. So I think the asian male has a good point in wanting to be represented better by the media but with sites like the fighting 44's it just brings everything down to a foul mouthed whiner party level. Good luck with the fight brother.
Ever find him? What a bitch ass nigga. Spineless.
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