Death in the Family

[vinh tha azn crazy]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

[ric]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

DAMN , sorry to hear about this. :shock: :x :cry:

BOSTON is one fucking racist state for asians.

[FatFish]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

Anything I can do to help?

[Dialectic]

Shit Vinh, I'm real sad to hear about this. Let us know if you think there's anything we can do.

[ric]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

man don't get yourself killed in process. Do it right way and get them by lawyers.

[DijabutiA]

Firebomb their house and shoot them when they come out screaming.

[angi]

That's so horrible. I'm so bad at stuff like this :(

I wonder, if it is possible to set up an account to help with lawyer/funeral costs?

[ric]

WE should show case this as an hatecrime and post story for all to see.

MM.com

AAM.com

http://www.jacl.org/about.html
http://www.chinkssteaks.com/
http://www.perilmovement.com/
http://www.naatanet.org/index.html
http://www.manaa.org/
http://www.80-20initiative.net/
http://www.asianmediawatch.net/
www.asianmediawatchdog.com

who else?

maybe vanh when u are havetime you can write up a story about this and your friend. ANother asian hate crime should not go unnotice.

[Dialectic]

Angi that's a good idea.

Vinh we don't know how to set something up like this right now, and we're not sure how much we can collect anyway, so no guarantees, but let me know if you want to work together on something like this, and we'll talk.

[ric]

Angi that's a good idea.

Vinh we don't know how to set something up like this right now, and we're not sure how much we can collect anyway, so no guarantees, but let me know if you want to work together on something like this, and we'll talk.


ALso we should link this "fund" and cover story EVERYWHERE on net. See my links.

Please all add or email any AA orgainzation about this. Also we should somehow contact any of those organizations in boston.

[blockthebox]

Oh Vinh. I'm so sorry. Be safe and remember all the wonderful places you're going.

[evil_FUX]

Vinh, fucked up shit. Sorry about your loss man.

[angi]

I think a Paypal account might be the easiest way, Dialectic.

If it goes around enough, it might even make the news.

[ric]

I think a Paypal account might be the easiest way, Dialectic.

If it goes around enough, it might even make the news.

Thats what I was saying before. If we set up a fund, this could be spread about NET and as well as AA organizations. Which would lead to press.

[Dialectic]

Setting up a support system involves more than just the technical/ web aspects. There are a bunch of things to consider here. We'll keep you updated on what's happening.

[vinh tha azn crazy]

mann... man.... shit i don't know what i can say. thanks. fucking bucnh of assholes. i shoulda been there. i was activism work. man... i feel so guilty. i knew they was beefin with a bunch of whities... fucking southie muthafuckas. shit man. i unno shit. this is driving me nuts man

[generaltojo]

Stay strong, Vinh. 44's behind you all the way.

[toml]

:evil:


stay strong my brother. stay strong.

[ric]

mann... man.... shit i don't know what i can say. thanks. fucking bucnh of assholes. i shoulda been there. i was activism work. man... i feel so guilty. i knew they was beefin with a bunch of whities... fucking southie muthafuckas. shit man. i unno shit. this is driving me nuts man

If you need to VENT or talk we are here for you. Email, PM whatever

[fjinvasion]

RIP my asian brutha

Its your homeboy, take revenge.

[fjinvasion]

and whats really good with them southies? Can someone fill me in what they be.

[koguryo]

There is need for action. There is need for support. But most of all, there is a need for power.

[shibalsheki]

I'm truly sorry to hear this, stay strong Vihn

[vinh tha azn crazy]

no justice no muthafukcing peace

[Dialectic]

Whassup Vinh,

A guy named Victor Frankl, a doctor and psychologist, survived the Nazi concentration camps and spent the rest of his life and career treating people, probably mostly from the middle class.

One of the most important things he learned from his life is that suffering is like a gas: no matter how much there is, it always expands and fills up the entire space it's in.

So assuming you don't self-destruct and you make it up out of your shit, which we know you're smart enough to do, then your kids and their kids are probably gonna sound and act like some of the folks on this forum. A lot of folks in all walks of life sometimes lose perspective, I know. That's the shit that's gonna happen.

New types of suffering always arise, and they always feel like they're filling up your whole life. Try to go easy on some of the motherfuckers here. They're trying to be as respectful and understanding as they can.

[kimtae]

Vinh, I feel your pain, brother. But don't lash out. Take your time. Find those fucks one by one if the law doesn't put them away (and let's get real, there's a good chance they'll walk with minimum sentences at best). Don't get crazy, get even. Revenge is a dish best served cold. COLD!

[HipHopMind]

I empathize.

I wish for the best for you and homies.

RIP for your G.

[VeryAngry]

My condolences, Vinh.

[Jae Thorn]

My condolences.....handle it as legal as you can, and then slam those fuckers hard........

[vinh tha azn crazy]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/07/13/two_assaults_led_to_brawl_say_teenagers/

best article on it. tells tha whole story. fucking irish

[ellencho]

Wow, these kids are young! Are you ~ their age too vinh? That's too early in life to be dealing with death. I'm sorry you lost your boy.

[FatFish]

I kept thinking about this and I can't fucking sleep. My heart is broken and my blood boils.

I took my brother to a shooting range last night and we wasted $300.00 on ammo.

I swear if I run into some white bigot during this time, I am going medieval on his ass. God help me.

[seoulone]

I'm very sorry about the loss of your friend. Stay strong!

[FightWithMe]

I'm so sorry, bro...

If there's any way that I/we could help... Feel free to let me/us know...

[xian]

Damn man. I just finished reading all this. The cops sound so typically worthless. They better do something on this shit. How is it that everytime whites start some racist shit, if we stand up to it, it's open season?

I'm sorry Vinh. Stay strong--I know you'll figure the most diabolical, best way to deal with this.

[Jeffrey]

Wow if those asian kids tried to avenge his death. Those asian kids would get caught so fast it would make their heads spin..

[Jeffrey]

Oh and one more thing. In Boston, isn't it common for asian GUYS to be harrassed by whities? and also have tons of sell-out whores walking around holding on to the arms of their white saviours? I guess love is color blind, but when it comes to your fellow brother getting harrassed whether it be verbally or physically. They will be the ones turning their backs on you because we're supposedly to thuggy or fobby.

[rainshowerz]

Setting up a support system involves more than just the technical/ web aspects. There are a bunch of things to consider here. We'll keep you updated on what's happening.

Any word on setting up a Paypal account? Please PM me once that's set up...Thanks!

[evil_FUX]

Sorry once more about your loss Vinh

It's for these reasons why everyone should know how to handle themselves in situations such as that brawl.

[AsianMilitia]

I'm sure there will be some payback. Asians don't take shit, like these
motherfuckers:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2186112,00.html

http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2004/061404driveby.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/139685p-123932c.html

[Jeffrey]

I'm sure there will be some payback. Asians don't take shit, like these
motherfuckers:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2186112,00.html

http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2004/061404driveby.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/139685p-123932c.html

Even though revenge would sound sweet, but i would hate to see them in jail....

[Sothy]

RIP

[AsianMilitia]

I'm sure there will be some payback. Asians don't take shit, like these
motherfuckers:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2186112,00.html

http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2004/061404driveby.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/139685p-123932c.html

Even though revenge would sound sweet, but i would hate to see them in jail....

Someone spending their time in jail is not a pleasant thought, but someone's gotta sacrifice themself for the cause and show non-Asians that Asians are no longer sitting ducks. My props to all the Asian thugs out there doing just that, like the ones I posted links about. Especially TRG in Long Beach. They've reportedly killed so many hispanic, black, samoan gangbangers, the feds sent in agents to break them up. And La Eme, the mexican mafia [the most powerful CA prison gang] has put the green lights on all Asians in jail because so many beaners on the outside have and are getting smoked by TRG and other Cambodian gangbangers in Long Beach, CA.

[VeryAngry]

Someone spending their time in jail is not a pleasant thought, but someone's gotta sacrifice themself for the cause and show non-Asians that Asians are no longer sitting ducks. My props to all the Asian thugs out there doing just that, like the ones I posted links about. Especially TRG in Long Beach. They've reportedly killed so many hispanic, black, samoan gangbangers, the feds sent in agents to break them up. And La Eme, the mexican mafia [the most powerful CA prison gang] has put the green lights on all Asians in jail because so many beaners on the outside have and are getting smoked by TRG and other Cambodian gangbangers in Long Beach, CA.

That doesn't sound like a good deal to me. They might as well have saved bullets for themselves and booby trapped their bodies with IEDs if they're gonna take that kind of a fall.

You ever notice how racist the press is? We're not allowed to be victims of racism, yet we are always portrayed as racists. Look at how much print space is dedicated to Asian against others hate crime, and how little is mentioned about us being victims of it. All these dumb crackers being interviewed and spouting "touchy feely" shit AFTER crap like this happens makes me SICK.

[rainshowerz]

Someone spending their time in jail is not a pleasant thought, but someone's gotta sacrifice themself for the cause and show non-Asians that Asians are no longer sitting ducks. My props to all the Asian thugs out there doing just that, like the ones I posted links about. Especially TRG in Long Beach. They've reportedly killed so many hispanic, black, samoan gangbangers, the feds sent in agents to break them up. And La Eme, the mexican mafia [the most powerful CA prison gang] has put the green lights on all Asians in jail because so many beaners on the outside have and are getting smoked by TRG and other Cambodian gangbangers in Long Beach, CA.

That's the thing...I don't think any of the Asian thugs (though mostly SE Asians) are continuing their lifestyle "for the cause." They simply got outcasted by the model minority stereotype that a lot of East Asians take for granted. I'm sure a lot of Asian gangsters would KILL to have the opportunity to go to college or move away from the ghetto or find a decent job to support their family, but they don't have that luxury. Them kicking ass (and maybe getting killed in the process) is just a byproduct of their resolve to survive...To me, a lot of Asian gangsters who live in the projects are just like the American soldiers in Iraq--they're the ones doing the work for the cause, but getting none of the rewards. Having a SE Asian gangster kick a cracka's ass and debunk the AM's emasculated image isn't going to open doors for this kid to go to college or for his parents to get off welfare.

Anyway, sorry about this rant...This thread should strictly be for expressing sympathy and support for one of its fallen victims...

[vinh tha azn crazy]

thankyou!!!! that's /exactly/ what im saying and /exactly/ what so many of my brothas are feeling and no one fucking understands.

[poisenedrice]

Reading that article made my blood boil; I sat here in front of my computer for about 30 minutes in a blind rage. Now that I've calmed down, reading about the death of vinh's buddy really puts things in fucking perspective. Here I was just an hour ago angry because I live in an area with pretty much just ignant whiteys, but now I realize how lucky I am where my biggest problem is trying to keep myself from blowing up Jimmy CrackerCorn's head off at work when he calls me hop sing.

This kid was only 16, and now he's dead. He'll never even have the chance to chase after the modelminority, whitewashed yuppie dream like I and the majority of us are living right now.

It's only thru a forum, but you have my support vinh.

[generaltojo]

That's the thing...I don't think any of the Asian thugs (though mostly SE Asians) are continuing their lifestyle "for the cause." They simply got outcasted by the model minority stereotype that a lot of East Asians take for granted. I'm sure a lot of Asian gangsters would KILL to have the opportunity to go to college or move away from the ghetto or find a decent job to support their family, but they don't have that luxury. Them kicking ass (and maybe getting killed in the process) is just a byproduct of their resolve to survive...To me, a lot of Asian gangsters who live in the projects are just like the American soldiers in Iraq--they're the ones doing the work for the cause, but getting none of the rewards. Having a SE Asian gangster kick a cracka's ass and debunk the AM's emasculated image isn't going to open doors for this kid to go to college or for his parents to get off welfare.


It's definitely an issue that any person borne of privilege - and who has a sense of self-awareness - has had to deal with, one time or another: does what I care about really matter in the face of things and people so much worse off?

I admit it: I have middle class roots. My parents and I did struggle earlier on when they landed here and had me, but we all did pretty well for ourselves over the years, mostly thanks to my dad. I was hit with racism pretty hard when I was younger - I kissed the dirt many a time in grade school - but that reality is very far away from me right now, and I am (as some say) sittin' in butter.

I have the luxury (and, the way I see it, the obligation) of exploring the issue of identity. Asian identity. But it's hard not to feel... guilty. Guilty, maybe, because you think you don't deserve the goodness in your life in the face of so much more obvious injustice, whether it be people with physical disabilities, health issues, people in war-torn countries, and yes, the boyz in the hood, living in subsistence, with the stark reality of violence all around them.

On one hand, yes, what I care about is relatively insignificant in the face of such obvious suffering. But on the other, it is what it is: we can only care about what we care about. We all start with a limited scope; the truly compassionate and aware seek to broaden their horizons and feel for others. We do the best we can do; that desire, while not worth a hell of a lot, is worth something, sometimes.

I'm glad you're on this board, Vinh. I feel kind of stupid and useless sometimes because, for chrissake, this is just a message board, and regardless of the issues and truths aired, it's all just zeroes and ones here with little or no physical value to you or anyone elses issues in reality. But in any case, I'm glad you're involved with 44, and I hope 44 gives you as much help as it's given me. Despite our different backgrounds, I feel very strongly that we're all in this together, because we're Asian, because if we trace the lines back to the roots, there is unity, somewhere.

[Kuroyama]

16 years old... that aint right. I cant imagine losing a friend at that age.
Be smart, and do the right thing Vinh. I cannot imagine what "the right thing" is, but when the time comes, you draw on the love of your family and friends... YOU will know whats right.

Stay strong.

[Dialectic]

Rainshowerz and all,

We cannot move beyond just bringing publicity to this case until we get into direct communication with Vinh and receive more information on what exactly went down and what exactly will be required to start some sort of support system.

One more thing: not all of us have been middle-class all our lives. My family wasn't 'til I was maybe 11 or 12. We understand more than some of you think.

Vinh, we're here if you need some help.

[rainshowerz]

Rainshowerz and all,

We cannot move beyond just bringing publicity to this case until we get into direct communication with Vinh and receive more information on what exactly went down and what exactly will be required to start some sort of support system.

One more thing: not all of us have been middle-class all our lives. My family wasn't 'til I was maybe 11 or 12. We understand more than some of you think.

Vinh, we're here if you need some help.

Actually, all I want to know is whether there'd be a paypal account set up for funeral expenses for Bang's family. I think at this point, his parents are probably just concerned with the funeral arrangements and mourning the loss of their son that they're not thinking about publicizing his death.

Of course, if all of us want to take the initiative and publicize his death to bring attention to hate crimes, more power to that, but I think right now, I just want to help his family pay some bills. Not sure exactly how paypal works, (and if Vinh is okay with doing this), but maybe we can start a small collection via paypal, and it either goes to Bang's family (via an account set up in their name) or Vinh will give it to them.

[Dialectic]

The Paypal thing is a good idea, and I'm fine with it.

But we can't start collecting money on anyone's behalf 'til we've communicated with them. We have to know what Vinh and his boy's family's thoughts are, we need contact and account info, we have to have our activities coordinated, and for all this we need to be in direct communication with Vinh. He hasn't yet responded to my message to him, so we can't move on this yet.

[FatFish]

Reading that article made my blood boil; I sat here in front of my computer for about 30 minutes in a blind rage. Now that I've calmed down, reading about the death of vinh's buddy really puts things in fucking perspective. Here I was just an hour ago angry because I live in an area with pretty much just ignant whiteys, but now I realize how lucky I am where my biggest problem is trying to keep myself from blowing up Jimmy CrackerCorn's head off at work when he calls me hop sing.

This kid was only 16, and now he's dead. He'll never even have the chance to chase after the modelminority, whitewashed yuppie dream like I and the majority of us are living right now.

It's only thru a forum, but you have my support vinh.

Poisonedrice, our struggle is not as bad as the fallen brother's but in no way insignificant. Don't sell yourself short. You feel what you feel and it is real and it is just.

[JediMindTrix]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

WHo the hell would gangup on a 16 year old boy and kill him? ONly monsters would. and monsters like that deserve to be put down; as in death.
Was it because the 16 y.o boy was acting up or provoking the whiteys to kick his ass? I've encountered obnoxious 16 y.o and other teens that pissed me off, but wouldnt think of kicking their ass.
Do what you can with Boston police or something into arresting the murderers.
and if that doesnt work...
Well, thats up to your discretion.

My heart goes out to the parents, family and friends of that boy.

[vinh tha azn crazy]

no. im not bothering the family. even if only to give them money. we're going to get our vengeance... and then imma work on outreach, get money forj obs and centers and shit so they race war don't go on.

the shit went down because it's /always/ been like that. whites and viets have been kicking each other's ass in that park since the viets came. we fight them and fight them and hate each other even if we're both young and poor. we fight and fight because we are raised to hate each other. bang died in a escpeicially violent outburst of long simmering racial hatred which is fueled by desperation and by being young and poor. we have too much time on our hands and too little money. Im gettin tha city to give four kids jobs this summer... imma give them to kids who are at-risk. and after that I just don't know... keep trying to do outreach i guess, try to slow this shit down a little bit... but retaliation will come.

[ric]

no. im not bothering the family. even if only to give them money. we're going to get our vengeance... and then imma work on outreach, get money forj obs and centers and shit so they race war don't go on.

the shit went down because it's /always/ been like that. whites and viets have been kicking each other's ass in that park since the viets came. we fight them and fight them and hate each other even if we're both young and poor. we fight and fight because we are raised to hate each other. bang died in a escpeicially violent outburst of long simmering racial hatred which is fueled by desperation and by being young and poor. we have too much time on our hands and too little money. Im gettin tha city to give four kids jobs this summer... imma give them to kids who are at-risk. and after that I just don't know... keep trying to do outreach i guess, try to slow this shit down a little bit... but retaliation will come.

Please update us with any new info. We are all here for you, man.

[General Grievous]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

[AsianMilitia]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

Exactly. Sad, but true. In our current environment, if anything happens to a Black man, or something anti-semitic occurs, it's on every single major network every night for the next 2 weeks. If something happens to an Asian man, nobody hears about, and comedians are even allowed to joke and make fun of it, especially Black comedians. Interesting times we live in, no doubt.

[ric]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

I doubt that to some degree. There are always young blacks getting killed in South Central, but do you see these incidents on news? maybe for couple of minutes on local regional stations. It this happen to a jew or white person then it will defintely be on CNN, etc. and still hear/read about it for months to come.

[FatFish]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

I doubt that to some degree. There are always young blacks getting killed in South Central, but do you see these incidents on news? maybe for couple of minutes on local regional stations. It this happen to a jew or white person then it will defintely be on CNN, etc. and still hear/read about it for months to come.

They are primarily Black on Black killings. We are talking about inter-racial killings sparked by hate.

[AsianMilitia]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

I doubt that to some degree. There are always young blacks getting killed in South Central, but do you see these incidents on news? maybe for couple of minutes on local regional stations. It this happen to a jew or white person then it will defintely be on CNN, etc. and still hear/read about it for months to come.

They are primarily Black on Black killings. We are talking about inter-racial killings sparked by hate.

If it were a White on Black inter-racial killing, the leftist, Jewish-run media would have 30 minute specials on every channel and do a feature on "the growing threat of racist right-wing white supremacist groups." Any other inter-racial killing, especially when an Asian male gets killed is unworthy of getting airtime. Because the Asian male has unfortunately become the most marginalized segment of our population.

There have been several Chinese delivery men who have been beaten and killed by black thugs in NY/NJ the past several years, where the thugs have beat and killed the deliverymen and than ate the food while the individual was lying there bleeding to death. Why hasn't the media made an issue of this? I suppose because the liberal media is about equal-opportunity, and it doesn't want to further degrade the precious image of the black male.

http://newscenter.ninn.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4349

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/immigrants/20040503/11/966

[General Grievous]

Here is another case you guys probably never heard of before. It keeps happening over and over, we have to wake up this country and stop this.

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=2000625&nav=5D7lOTXG

[General Grievous]

Here is another case you guys probably never heard of before. It keeps happening over and over, we have to wake up this country and stop this.

[url]http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=2000625&nav=5D7lOTXG[/ur
l]


I just found some breaking news about this story. I'm sure you guys will find this quite interesting. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/the_valley/9163284.htm?1c

Those white guys got away with beating those Asian young men, while the Asian guys were charged with hate crime against the whites! And only one white teen was charged.

[AsianMilitia]

Here is another case you guys probably never heard of before. It keeps happening over and over, we have to wake up this country and stop this.

[url]http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=2000625&nav=5D7lOTXG[/ur
l]


I just found some breaking news about this story. I'm sure you guys will find this quite interesting. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/the_valley/9163284.htm?1c

Those white guys got away with beating those Asian young men, while the Asian guys were charged with hate crime against the whites! And only one white teen was charged.

No where in that article or anywhere in any article related to that story was there anything about Asians getting charged with hate crimes. You should re-read it.

[General Grievous]

Here is another case you guys probably never heard of before. It keeps happening over and over, we have to wake up this country and stop this.

[url]http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=2000625&nav=5D7lOTXG[/ur
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I just found some breaking news about this story. I'm sure you guys will find this quite interesting. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/the_valley/9163284.htm?1c

Those white guys got away with beating those Asian young men, while the Asian guys were charged with hate crime against the whites! And only one white teen was charged.

You are joking right? :roll:

No joke! This article was not written very clearly, but I think what the writer meant was; the judge didn't rule in favor of the victims. The white guys got away with the hate crime. That's what I'm going to call it!

[Yellow_Peril]

why is this a surprise? like i said before (and it got deleted) .. boston is anti-asian..


Boston Cops are corrupt (as well as the judicial system)... it's not like they're going to sweat this.

[vinh tha azn crazy]

hit up my xanga... www.xanga.com/xazncrazinessx put it up as a feature pelase.

[Dialectic]

Vinh we'll get this up next round.

[Tr1ad]

i heard about this when i heard this happened my blood boiled my hate against white boys grew more intent i'm sorry for what has happened to ur home boy RIP..[/url]

[AngryEthiopian]

If he had been black, it would have been on CNN and Nightline and everything between, but because he was Asian it probably didn't even make the USA Today's local section.

Exactly. Sad, but true. In our current environment, if anything happens to a Black man, or something anti-semitic occurs, it's on every single major network every night for the next 2 weeks. If something happens to an Asian man, nobody hears about, and comedians are even allowed to joke and make fun of it, especially Black comedians. Interesting times we live in, no doubt.
It won't be like that for long if some people get what they want. Many people would like to dismantle groups like the NAACP (this group is the core of getting African American issues heard nation wide, there are chapters in every state and many many cities). People say that having groups like NAACP is racists in itself, of course many people know better. But the NAACP also picks up non-black issues. There have been instances when they've faught against hate crimes regarding arabs, latinos and asians. But there needs to be more groups like this and more people to fight against hate in this country (because there is so much hate within).

I think some groups think it's easy for blacks because our issues appear to be heard more freely, but it is still untrue and it's an ongoing struggle. I live in Oakland, CA where there are MANY racist cops, especially in my part of the town. African Americans still get pulled over more than any other race, are held longer before being allowed to drive off after being pulled over amung other things. Just FYI.

[PRETTYBOI]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/11/teenager_killed_in_fight_on_boston_basketball_cour t/

that's my muthafucking homeboy. so all you fucking my trang muthaufckas can suck my fucking dick. my homeboy was a good kid, just one of the homeboys, funny, ate at my house, gave me a muthafuckin scar and chilled like a muthaufkca and then a bunch of whities started shit wid him and his set and ended up killing him. so /fuck/ you. go fucking shoot yourself and fucking save me the trouble of hunting your ass down muthafucka cause i promise you this is one muthafucking gook who aint gon die unavenged.

Dam dude. Sorry to hear about that but I just recently lost my little sister on 04/29/2005. She got kill by a Vehicular car crash and die instantly on the accident scene.

She was fixing a flat tire on eastbound u.s. 90 highway. A white women was approaching an oncoming vehicle so fast when she was doing her make-up. She try to avoid a collision and that was when she ran off the road and hit my little sister.

My sister had multiple massive brain trauma, multiple massive bone fracture, skull fracture and broken jaw and the worst part was I saw her bone down her leg sticking out.

The state police troop C only issue a ticket which is Careless Operation. :evil: I was so angry and mad that I ended up suing the State Police too as well as the women. There was 5 witnesses and I'm not going down without a fight :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

You can read about it here. http://houmatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050501/NEWS/505010308/1096/ARCHIVES14

[B the student]

i hope justice is served for your sister, for you and for your family PB. you have my condolences.

~B the student

[PRETTYBOI]

Thanks B the student. I want the women to be charge with Negligent Homicide or Vehicular homicide like how it's suppose to be.

[vsoy]

PB, I am sorry for your sister's untimely death. Strength to your family to pull together to survive this loss and to convict that reckless driver. We're living in an age where people do not take responsibility for their actions and blame wrong doings on everyone else but themselves.

I sincerely hope that your family wins this case not only to serve justice for your sister but to send a message to people that they got to take driving more seriously and pay more attention.

[PRETTYBOI]

PB, I am sorry for your sister's untimely death. Strength to your family to pull together to survive this loss and to convict that reckless driver. We're living in an age where people do not take responsibility for their actions and blame wrong doings on everyone else but themselves.

I sincerely hope that your family wins this case not only to serve justice for your sister but to send a message to people that they got to take driving more seriously and pay more attention.

Thanks for the nice comment vsoy! Yeah, I mean I'm trying you know and my family lives so far away. My sister was coming down here and live with me so she can get away from everything. It's all kind of my fault that I didn't look out for her carefully.

I took the blame for everything and so on. My lawyer is a judge for the new orleans city and a lawyer for east bank jefferson parish which is across the river from new orleans.

The case has already been won which the insurance already had made an offer but that's not the case. Money dont mean anything to me right now because it won't bring back my little sister. I want her to face her crime and recieve the maximum punishment and I want the court to ask the state police why that women got charge with only a ticket when my little sister die instantly on the accident scene.

I'm trying to live life normal and it's not going, too well here. *sigh* :cry:

[JadeDragon]

prettyboi, you have my condolences. I sincerely hope that you and your family will be able to pull through this tragedy, and that the appropriate punishment will be meted out to the reckless driver. Your sister's untimely death is NOT your fault; you could not have predicted that it would have happened. May she rest in peace.

[PRETTYBOI]

prettyboi, you have my condolences. I sincerely hope that you and your family will be able to pull through this tragedy, and that the appropriate punishment will be meted out to the reckless driver. Your sister's untimely death is NOT your fault; you could not have predicted that it would have happened. May she rest in peace.

Thank you so much JadeDragon!!! I just hope that she can rest in peace after the outcome of this battle in court. I visit my little sister everyday now. I'm trying to live through this and pull it through. So far, it's not going too good but it will take time. I've been having crazy thoughts lately and I fight very hard to not think about it

But before she die, I had this one odd feeling of why she wanted to come down here and stay with me? She never used to call me or talk to me often because she stay in California and I stay over in Louisiana.

I had that one odd weird feeling of losing my little sister but I kind of ignore the warning and on 04/29/2005 at 8:30am in the morning was when it shocked my whole world. I didn't know anything about it until 11:30am later on that same day.

At 1:30pm I was force to have her life support machine taken out :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: because she was already declare brain dead and her heart beating was so low that it was consider lifeless by a Neurologist and Heart Surgeon.

The most painful moment ever in my whole entire life of living in this world :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[cattygurl]

PB,

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your sister. My condolences to you and your family. May she rest in peace.

[PRETTYBOI]

PB,

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your sister. My condolences to you and your family. May she rest in peace.

Thanks cattygurl!!! :)

[The Ram]

I'm very sorry to hear as well. I would have posted something earlier
but I wasn't sure how to address such a sensitive issue.

Again, I'm very sorry to hear.. :cry:

[PRETTYBOI]

I'm very sorry to hear as well. I would have posted something earlier
but I wasn't sure how to address such a sensitive issue.

Again, I'm very sorry to hear.. :cry:

Thanks the ram!!! I sure hope the court will handle this matter in an appropiate way without any form of racism being involve in this matter.

[toml]

^^^ That's so messed up!

Shit. I can't believe the killer only got a traffic ticket!

Reading that article made me so pissed!

Stay strong and please keep us updated.

[PRETTYBOI]

^^^ That's so messed up!

Shit. I can't believe the killer only got a traffic ticket!

Reading that article made me so pissed!

Stay strong and please keep us updated.

Yeah toml, it was messed up with how she got away with just a ticket. It pissed alot of people off who read about it in the newspaper. But I will keep all of you all update on it about the issue. I'll get the actual police report and post it on here for everyone to see.

[PRETTYBOI]

If any of you precious member on here have time. Please, go here and visit my little sister website which was made by whoever I dont know but if you're that one person who is reading this. Thank you so much!!!

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Rip_Kathy

[Dialectic]

Hey PB, the Founders extend our condolences as well. If you want to write anything about her, to her, a letter, a story, whatever, send it our way and we'll see about putting it up as a Feature (we're putting up new pieces very, very soon).

I visited the Xanga. It is quite touching.

I was going to post this somewhere else, and I still may, but I thought this would be appropriate here. It is part of a correspondence between my old Zen Roshi and a student, who was asking about violence, death, and suffering. The text is called "No Consolation."

[The whole piece is here: http://www.wwzc.org/teisho/NoConsolation.htm]

Student: Please shed some light and wisdom for me. I have very rarely felt so torn and sad.

Roshi: You might not like it. But it is true. As the Buddha pointed out over and over again: This is samsara, this is the closed cycle of conditioned experience. At best it will inevitably kill you and everyone you love. There is no other possibility. But there are much worse things possible. People not only harm each other and the world around them but kill. Deliberately. There is war, pestilence, and famine. This has always been so. As well as the millions of human lives that will be lost in these events over the coming months and years, as you have said, there are also the birds and cattle and goats and horses and dogs and cats and insects that will be killed by explosions and the famine and other hardships that will follow devastation. As well as this, it gets worse. People who make money by buying and selling money move their money here and there and industries and nations and people lose money because of it; people can no longer buy rice to make gruel for their babies. This too is very real. There is also every likelihood that no matter what anyone does now, unless everyone everywhere changes everything that they do about everything (and most of us also just vanish magically from the earth without leaving the plagues and pollution that would result from so many human bodies), all wildlife on the planet will be extinct within twenty years or so except what can live in cities and between the ploughed rows of fields such as raccoons, crows, and so on. This too is very real. And it gets worse because the list goes on.

None of this can be remedied, no matter the depths of rage and anguish and horror and sadness we might feel. You cannot fix it. I cannot fix it. We can try not to break it further. But in any case, life will go on, as it does, doing what it does: birth, eating, shitting, death. This is a very beautiful world, but it is not a safe place. It is not fair. It is not nice. And yet the nature of all beings and of each being is, and always has been, and always will be limitless luminosity, beyond birth and death and all conditions.

Realizing this freedom, embodying this, and making it available to others in every way that we can is the only thing worth doing at all. This has nothing to do with trying to make the world safe or wishing it was nice. It has to do with the continuous practice of radical questioning and the dynamic activity of releasing. So I cannot help you with your sadness except to say: Feel sad, if sadness is present. A broken heart is a reasonable thing in this world. But do not become the sadness but do not avoid it. Feel the hands, feel the feet, keep the peripheral vision open. Don't talk to yourself. Don't vent to others and encourage them to vent. If you are watching the news on TV, practise. If you are speaking, practise. If you are listening, practise. And follow the instructions you have been given. Sit when you can, as often as you can.

From everything that I know and what all of the Buddhas and Awakened Ancestors have known, this is the most and in fact the only important or useful thing you can ever really do: practise the Way. This is the only light and wisdom I have to offer. It is not consoling but I think you do not really want merely to be consoled.

[PRETTYBOI]

Thanks for helping out, Dialectic! Well I was thinking about writing stories about her and what she has accomplish and all. She's still too young and she got her whole future ahead of her. She recieved a scholarship from Tulane University down here where I'm staying at in Louisiana.

I think that's one of the greatest part of her life. But if I do write anything about it. I'll send it to you and I'll make sure to tell all her friends and those who made a whole bunch of website about her, to send it to you :)

I can post almost 50 links or more that people who knows her that made it. Too many to count and I visit it most of the times but I try not to often because all that song in the website and her picture makes me burst into tears :cry: :cry: :cry:

Thank you all for your condolences and sympathy :wink:

[seoulbrotherno1]

My condolences PrettyBoi.

As much as I hate to say it, it seems like race may have played a role in this tragedy. Of course, the White woman never intended to get into an accident, nor harm anyone, but the fact of the matter is that she killed your sister, intentional or not.

I feel if the tables were turned (your sister killing a White woman), your sister would be facing maximum penalty.

I am dumbfounded to hear that the White woman has been charged only with "careless operation." The court seems to be focusing strictly on the White woman's intent, rather than the consequences for your sister and family. If that is the case, then will drunk drivers who kill people also be let off with "careless operation" since they never mean to inflict harm?

Of course, locking this White woman up will never bring your sister back. While I don't advocate trying to crucify this White woman out of revenge, right now it seems like the only way you can feel that justice is served is if a more serious sentence is delivered.

That is fucked up for both you and the White woman. The real culprit in this case is the SYSTEM which seeks to protect its own, however, I don't think that you'll ever be able to see justice served in the case of the officers, lawyers, and judges that treated your sister's life as unimportant.

Furthermore, in a more idea world, the White woman would recognize the fact that she was the beneficiary of racial bias and she would try to own up to it / make amends. I think that not only a heartfelt apology for the loss of your sister is in order, I think that she should also own up to the fact that her White privilege has quite literally let her get away with murder (manslaughter).

Unfortunately this is not an idea world. The only way you can feel that you will have justice served is if the White woman in question faces a more severe penalty. If the White woman feels victimized for your attempts to achieve justice, then you can explain the situation to her.

Good luck in your attempts to rectify the situation. While it is important to fight, I would suggest that you brace yourself for the worst. Overturning the original ruling, "careless operation," would mean contradicting the other officers, lawyers, judges, and courts who approved of this ruling to begin with. Those people are all friends with each other, so you are up against a SYSTEM, and your sisters case won't be taken up on its own merits.

Just keep fighting and remember that your struggle for your sister will be fought every time we resist the injust and racist system.

sb1

[PRETTYBOI]

Thanks SB1! You're right about that part about how the system works racislly but lets hope that in a time like this. Race shouldn't matter, but what's important is seeking justice for the death of my little sister.

The thing is, I won't be seeking justice against the women or the state police officer in state court in that area of jurisdiction where she was killed. The case will go to federal court instead of state court which I know the state court will play a role in defending the state police.

I know how this whole game played off already. My coast guard base unit even advise me to take this to federal court. It's been done and said but if you ask me, I can tell you now that the lawyer who is handling my case is a judge from new orleans city and a private lawyer for jefferson parish.

It's about about the money and I dont think he'll give up that too easily if he wants to win. But either way it goes, state and federal are two different level of government which I know it's going to be hard for the state police to play a role in this one. I know state court will end up siding with the state police so I change my route.

Thanks for your advise and condolences :) :) :)