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Dialectic
Jun 4th, 2004, 01:13 AM
A concerned forum participant sent us the following email:

Dudes,

You guys have to stop editing/deleting (or whatever you do) comments. This is supposed to be an open forum where people can be free to express their opinions. If not, what's the difference between your site and other people's site?

One of the main reasons that we're attracted to your site is that we can be honest! I mean, that's why I check out your site on a daily basis to see how my fellow Asian bros feel about things that affect their lives! Otherwise, my only other alternative to is see some white boy's view on the world.

So what if people argue?! It actually enlightens people to hear and see various arguments. We can see where we are right and/or wrong. We need each other to bounce around views and opinions. Nothing wrong with that, no?

This is our response:

We understand your feelings; we don't edit any posts (except our own), although we might make editions to the titles of other people's posts for clarity's sake.

As for deleting, yeah we do that: I have deleted member posts, along with several of the Core44s: mostly mine, those of Zhaogao and even a few of Tojo's earlier on.

TWO factors differentiate our forum from those of other yellow sites:

1) Freedom of expression. We don't really care if you say something we disagree with.

2) Intelligence. This is a BIG one. If you intelligently say something we don't like, it's cool. If you sound like a moron, or start degenerating into dumbass bigotry and name-calling, we will delete or lock down the shit because stupidity is almost as bad as evil. Sometimes it can be worse.

As I said, arguing and bouncing around opinions is fine. Mindless attacks or props or barely readable English is not. Now we may not have been wholly consistent in this, and shit might slip through 'cause the forum is growing like nuts, but we're gonna do our best to maintain a certain standard.

Otherwise you get dumbasses who are not even capable of being fully rational, and can't really type in English, posting a shitload of useless comments on the intrinsic evil of people with mixed blood or how Whitey is genetically predisposed to dominate people. That shit's not gonna fly.

Be smart.

Dialectic
Jun 23rd, 2004, 06:30 PM
Read the thread "Example of a Stupid Thread" under this forum to gain an even better understanding of what we deem utterly stupid.

The Core44s have been accused of censorship. If you're dumb enough to genuinely look at us that way, we have no problem with this: we'll censor your ass like a fat cracka mom on Janet Jackson.

This forum may be viewed as a French lawn, or perhaps a Bansai tree. We are the fucking gardeners, and it's our job, honor, and pleasure to dig up the weeds and make sure we don't get no wild or useless cancerous growths spreading all over the healthy areas of our beautiful living social organism.

Don't be a retard (unless you can't help it and are actually a retard). The world will love you for it.

Yellow_Peril
Jun 23rd, 2004, 06:40 PM
This forum may be viewed as a French lawn, or perhaps a Bansai tree. We are the fucking gardeners, and it's our job, honor, and pleasure to dig up the weeds and make sure we don't get no wild or useless cancerous growths spreading all over the healthy areas of our beautiful tree.
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Buddy, nothing personal.. but in order to take care of a Bonsai tree, you have to wrap it up in tight wire and shape it in the way you want it to develop...

in other words, you have to RESTRICT IT.. in order for it to grow the way you want it to. so WTF...


I agree with both your arguments.. I just think this forum is a great way to vent.. and ya it can degenerate to childishness (i'd admit.. i've contributed to it.. ) but I dunno.. i think if you dig deep enough.. everyone seems to have a pretty good point, or perspective (even if it seems a tad silly)

I guess we'll have to wait and see....

generaltojo
Jun 23rd, 2004, 06:41 PM
Trust in 44. We won't steer you wrong.

Much.

Dialectic
Jun 23rd, 2004, 06:50 PM
Peril I also wanted to take this opportunity to say that I'm glad you're still with us.

It's not our intention to alienate or restrict anyone. Another metaphor: do you talk to a young child about Aushwitz or the Rape of Nanking or snuff films?

They are certainly good things to know about, and they teach certain hard lessons about humanity.

But you do not speak about them until you're sure the child can handle it. You restrict his/her access to information and growth possibilities. If you are a bad parent, then YES you make your child grow the way YOU want. If you are a good parent, however, you give the child the maximum opportunity to grow HEALTHILY along his/her own path.

None of you is a child, but the FORUM is. We are limiting and restricting the possibilities for pathology and stupidity. And we are here to monitor and encourage healthy growth and evolution until self-regulation is a realistic possibility.

.vhg//ALITA
Jun 23rd, 2004, 06:59 PM
It's good that you do this; I'm a moderator on another forum of a less serious topic, but the intent is the same. Early when we revamped and moved our forum to an invision forum, I knew people would try and start spamming, so what I did was that I deleted any posts that were not relevant to the topic, and even stated in the subtitle of my forum rules that "it's not my problem if you don't read this".

I personally don't see anything wrong with the Core 44s' moderation of the forum. You only intervene when the threads get way too far, and frankly, that's when a moderator or admin on a forum like this should intervene. I don't see any "censorship" on this forum; if that were the case then there would be several missing/locked threads.

Keep moderating. You're doing a motherfucking great job of it *thumbs up*

ABC in NYC
Jun 23rd, 2004, 07:08 PM
Dialectic,

Okay. I accept your reasoning and I agree with it.

Thanks for the clarification.