Jaehwan pointed out one critical thing that I misunderstood from the very beginning with this post– the part where Dialectic stated: “That as a result, PUA-ism in general is bad, because it ultimately encourages men to hurt women by “dehumanizing” (objectifying) them in mens’ eyes.” I mis-interpreted to mean that some woman(women) actually made such a statement, when in fact, no one has done this.

Furthermore, in my original post, I said, “2) You honestly believe that the curriculum in the ABCs of Attraction “encourages men to hurt women,” or some similar permutation of that statement (hurt, lie, manipulate, etc.).” I for some reason thought that malikulita was responding to me as if she did honestly believe that the curriculum in the ABCs of Attraction “encourages men to hurt women,” when really, while looking back at the posts, I realize that I made an incorrect assumption here. I was wrong about that.

-William

My bad, I see that I used the wrong pronoun in the second part of my post. When I said:

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That aside, you can say that I’m promoting myself, you can say that you have doubts as to your personal safety, and you can say that I have insincere intentions in my offer. Unfortunately, you would be completely wrong about all of those.
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The ‘you’ here wasn’t referring to you, Nightshade, I was actually referring to ‘you other commenters on this post.’ Sorry about that. Those three things that I referred to which were written by ‘you other commenters on this post’ were written by people OTHER THAN Nightshade. That’s a small typographical error on my part.

-William

You’re trying to make this into an argument that can be won or lost, and I wasn’t intending to do that to you.

But seriously, you’re trying my patience with your retardation and your assumptions. So here it is, honestly: FUCK OFF.

“I do believe that you offer a service that is valuable to some men–but I also believe that the women have a right to be skeeved out by some of the language of PUA.”

This is actually the first honest opinion I’ve heard so far, and I actually agree with you that the marketing materials on many PUA websites, including the ABCs Of Attraction, is “skeevy”.

That aside, you can say that I’m promoting myself, you can say that you have doubts as to your personal safety, and you can say that I have insincere intentions in my offer. Unfortunately, you would be completely wrong about all of those.

In any case, the offer still stands, and if you’d like to make a judgement about what I teach based on an actual knowledge of the contents of the lessons, rather than simply saying that I “encourage men to harm women” without really knowing what I do, here’s your chance.

-William

1) You are female.
2) You honestly believe that fighting me will prove that the part of your statement in dispute is true or some similar permutation (half-truth, conditional truth, etc.).