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		<title>By: denacali</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/30/white-cafe/#comment-6768</link>
		<dc:creator>denacali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too freakin hilarious, especially the music vid dedications</description>
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		<title>By: kikiandlala</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/30/white-cafe/#comment-6748</link>
		<dc:creator>kikiandlala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the Western news media DOES talk about white girls working at hostess bars.  Especially during the Honore Blackman murder case.  But even before then, news shows have talked about it - it's just that it'll be on documentary-specific news shows like CBC's Passionate Eye or ABC's Dateline rather than dinner news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Western news media DOES talk about white girls working at hostess bars.  Especially during the Honore Blackman murder case.  But even before then, news shows have talked about it - it&#8217;s just that it&#8217;ll be on documentary-specific news shows like CBC&#8217;s Passionate Eye or ABC&#8217;s Dateline rather than dinner news.</p>
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		<title>By: analogisnumberone</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/30/white-cafe/#comment-6739</link>
		<dc:creator>analogisnumberone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is the white media we're looking at. They'll continue to beat us over the head with racism until we beat them out of the broadcasting realm. Why not have a letter writing campaign about the racism in thier coverage? Maybe also start a campaign to have more black anchors on the air too? How about more black employees too? Pressure is the only thing that works. How about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is the white media we&#8217;re looking at. They&#8217;ll continue to beat us over the head with racism until we beat them out of the broadcasting realm. Why not have a letter writing campaign about the racism in thier coverage? Maybe also start a campaign to have more black anchors on the air too? How about more black employees too? Pressure is the only thing that works. How about it?</p>
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		<title>By: RebelAzn</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/30/white-cafe/#comment-6737</link>
		<dc:creator>RebelAzn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The intention of this story does nothing other than to stroke white male egos.  There are plenty of strip joints and hostess bars in Japan featuring white women, how come they never do a story like that?  The media here is pretty pathetic in that sense.  They can take any subset of facts and blow it up like it is the reality.

There is a documentary film about white women working in Japan as hostess called Tokyo Girls or something.  Anyway, there are plenty but no one in the west make any media news about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The intention of this story does nothing other than to stroke white male egos.  There are plenty of strip joints and hostess bars in Japan featuring white women, how come they never do a story like that?  The media here is pretty pathetic in that sense.  They can take any subset of facts and blow it up like it is the reality.</p>
<p>There is a documentary film about white women working in Japan as hostess called Tokyo Girls or something.  Anyway, there are plenty but no one in the west make any media news about that.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to what I said in the thread, this is just generally sexist (also, again, dumb idea).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to what I said in the thread, this is just generally sexist (also, again, dumb idea).</p>
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		<title>By: mobbdeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>mobbdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here we go again.  anti-cnn.com is a better site.

 when i talk race and asian male issues with non asian girls, they think i am a psychotic paranoid crazy asian man.  I give them examples of this and that and they don't wanna hear it.

They are all racists.   SO I am the crazy one seeing things huh?

 Sure.

  Instead of focusing on articles about victims of the quake in China, they will do this.

Media is worst than ever now. Breaking story my ass.  F CNN F Western media  

Western ahhahahha. This is not cowboys and indians here.

 They are sneaky and tricky as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here we go again.  anti-cnn.com is a better site.</p>
<p> when i talk race and asian male issues with non asian girls, they think i am a psychotic paranoid crazy asian man.  I give them examples of this and that and they don&#8217;t wanna hear it.</p>
<p>They are all racists.   SO I am the crazy one seeing things huh?</p>
<p> Sure.</p>
<p>  Instead of focusing on articles about victims of the quake in China, they will do this.</p>
<p>Media is worst than ever now. Breaking story my ass.  F CNN F Western media  </p>
<p>Western ahhahahha. This is not cowboys and indians here.</p>
<p> They are sneaky and tricky as always.</p>
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		<title>By: uRB4N</title>
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		<dc:creator>uRB4N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's now the top viewed video on CNN's video list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s now the top viewed video on CNN&#8217;s video list.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuroyama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuroyama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liang...

I might suggest that if the men are as buff as you suggest, that THEY would be the ones passing out slaps.  Not the other way around.

ODDITY

The wife and I have been watching THE CLOSER.  A detective show usually involving murder.  so weve been renting episodes from the local video shop (national chain) that imports them.  Japan is usually years behind the US.  (Battlestar Galactica just got here a couple of weeks ago)  But the shop only imported to like, episode 8 or so of Season two.  No more after that...  which we thought was odd, but whatever.

Sick of waiting, we download seasons 2 and 3 and resume watching.  Lo and behold...

The NEXT episode in the lineup is about a white guy who marries Japanese women (he finds them easily because Japanese men beat them)... take them into his home, loves them for a time, then kills them and dumps their remains (using Japanese traditional ropes and knots) into lakes, bays, what have you.  They even went so far as to say that all the women looked exactly alike.


Im willing to bet that episode NEVER sees light of day over here.  Id rent it just to see how they translate the English (sometimes they avoid unpleasant or hard to understand language - so I wonder how they will translate "those Japanese women look exactly alike!!"  "they could be twins!" "...my Japanese husband beats me..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liang&#8230;</p>
<p>I might suggest that if the men are as buff as you suggest, that THEY would be the ones passing out slaps.  Not the other way around.</p>
<p>ODDITY</p>
<p>The wife and I have been watching THE CLOSER.  A detective show usually involving murder.  so weve been renting episodes from the local video shop (national chain) that imports them.  Japan is usually years behind the US.  (Battlestar Galactica just got here a couple of weeks ago)  But the shop only imported to like, episode 8 or so of Season two.  No more after that&#8230;  which we thought was odd, but whatever.</p>
<p>Sick of waiting, we download seasons 2 and 3 and resume watching.  Lo and behold&#8230;</p>
<p>The NEXT episode in the lineup is about a white guy who marries Japanese women (he finds them easily because Japanese men beat them)&#8230; take them into his home, loves them for a time, then kills them and dumps their remains (using Japanese traditional ropes and knots) into lakes, bays, what have you.  They even went so far as to say that all the women looked exactly alike.</p>
<p>Im willing to bet that episode NEVER sees light of day over here.  Id rent it just to see how they translate the English (sometimes they avoid unpleasant or hard to understand language - so I wonder how they will translate &#8220;those Japanese women look exactly alike!!&#8221;  &#8220;they could be twins!&#8221; &#8220;&#8230;my Japanese husband beats me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/30/white-cafe/#comment-6719</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skrips:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“Being a sell-hating person is embarrassing for the rest of us human beings” -Me.

Good observations about the story’s use of the word “Western”, jaehwan. Obviously, if an Asian American or African American person were to walk into that cafe, they wouldn’t be getting a job. It’s not a Western cafe… it’s a WHITE cafe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's funny how language often functions as a means of hiding a deeper message.  I'll bet somewhere there must be a dissertation on how language masks racism.  Maybe Pinker wrote something about it...

urB4N
&lt;blockquote&gt;The title of the link that was on the CNN main page was EXACTLY what I called the title:

“Asian women seek white, groveling men”

So, J, your original assertion that American media wouldn’t dare put “white” as the title is wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Haha...I got direct service via your link, so I skipped the main page.  Sorry.  You're right, urB4N.  And that is crazy.  But you did notice that they avoided saying "white" in the video.  So maybe writing about race is more politically correct than saying it?  It would be pretty bad if they had an Asian female reporter talking about Asian women seeking white, groveling men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skrips:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Being a sell-hating person is embarrassing for the rest of us human beings” -Me.</p>
<p>Good observations about the story’s use of the word “Western”, jaehwan. Obviously, if an Asian American or African American person were to walk into that cafe, they wouldn’t be getting a job. It’s not a Western cafe… it’s a WHITE cafe.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how language often functions as a means of hiding a deeper message.  I&#8217;ll bet somewhere there must be a dissertation on how language masks racism.  Maybe Pinker wrote something about it&#8230;</p>
<p>urB4N</p>
<blockquote><p>The title of the link that was on the CNN main page was EXACTLY what I called the title:</p>
<p>“Asian women seek white, groveling men”</p>
<p>So, J, your original assertion that American media wouldn’t dare put “white” as the title is wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>Haha&#8230;I got direct service via your link, so I skipped the main page.  Sorry.  You&#8217;re right, urB4N.  And that is crazy.  But you did notice that they avoided saying &#8220;white&#8221; in the video.  So maybe writing about race is more politically correct than saying it?  It would be pretty bad if they had an Asian female reporter talking about Asian women seeking white, groveling men.</p>
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		<title>By: uRB4N</title>
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		<dc:creator>uRB4N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title of the link that was on the CNN main page was EXACTLY what I called the title:

"Asian women seek white, groveling men"

So, J, your original assertion that American media wouldn't dare put "white" as the title is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title of the link that was on the CNN main page was EXACTLY what I called the title:</p>
<p>&#8220;Asian women seek white, groveling men&#8221;</p>
<p>So, J, your original assertion that American media wouldn&#8217;t dare put &#8220;white&#8221; as the title is wrong.</p>
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