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	<title>Comments on: Happy Father&#8217;s Day from Barack Obama</title>
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		<title>By: nycjoc</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/16/happy-fathers-day-from-barack-obama/#comment-6510</link>
		<dc:creator>nycjoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you why bill Cosby didn't get connected.  Bill Cosby was on record too many times claiming he ain't got time to be down for black folks.  Many people have been working in the trenches for years doing things in the community but Bill came out foul.  He comes into the conversations with this attitude like he knew something about poor people’s problems after he's been removed from it for years.  Secondly, some of his criticisms were just damn stupid (ie use American names like John…), third he has no connection with the very people he was criticizing, acting just like a number of Negros after they got all these people to support then disappearing into the sunset seemingly never to be seen again, only to reappear when they want to dump of them in a every way.

If Michael Eric Dyson made the same comments (which he does) nobody would twitch because Mike Dyson stayed in the trenches fighting for those folks through the good and the bad.  The main problem with Bill was his classist tone.  Who the hell is he?  What is he doing to uplift black folks?  Yes I know about the HSBU contributions but what else?  While he was giving money to Howard he should have been chastising said school for buying up dilapidated house then leaving them to rot in the black community instead of building it up.  Where was he when all these rich Negros took off living their integrated dream only to hit a glass ceiling; then they started railing against the lesser Negros as a way to make themselves look better in the eyes of others (Not everyone does this, I know).  Bill has no street cred that's why no one listen to him speak.

Obama is walking a thin line.  Not for saying what needs to be said.  However the truth is that its an American problem and not unique to black men contrary to popular belief.  However, Obama is like Cosby.  He has only so much street credit and people took notice in the black community when he barely campaign there (unless it was a heavily black voter state) in an effort not to seem like a man only for black people.  More than once Obama used the mike to talk crazy to black folks (despite the truth of his statements) in a way he will never talk to some bigot whites, or other non black people.  His open chastisement of black folks while his silence in their other struggles, makes him seem like he’s beating up on black folks for the approval of whites and other people of color.

I agree with his statements but even I'm getting wary.  If he wants social change he needs to change everybody or be like too many leaders using black folks as a tool to gain access or approval from everyone else.  The national pass time of a token negro and the growing trend of finding someone black to throw under the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you why bill Cosby didn&#8217;t get connected.  Bill Cosby was on record too many times claiming he ain&#8217;t got time to be down for black folks.  Many people have been working in the trenches for years doing things in the community but Bill came out foul.  He comes into the conversations with this attitude like he knew something about poor people’s problems after he&#8217;s been removed from it for years.  Secondly, some of his criticisms were just damn stupid (ie use American names like John…), third he has no connection with the very people he was criticizing, acting just like a number of Negros after they got all these people to support then disappearing into the sunset seemingly never to be seen again, only to reappear when they want to dump of them in a every way.</p>
<p>If Michael Eric Dyson made the same comments (which he does) nobody would twitch because Mike Dyson stayed in the trenches fighting for those folks through the good and the bad.  The main problem with Bill was his classist tone.  Who the hell is he?  What is he doing to uplift black folks?  Yes I know about the HSBU contributions but what else?  While he was giving money to Howard he should have been chastising said school for buying up dilapidated house then leaving them to rot in the black community instead of building it up.  Where was he when all these rich Negros took off living their integrated dream only to hit a glass ceiling; then they started railing against the lesser Negros as a way to make themselves look better in the eyes of others (Not everyone does this, I know).  Bill has no street cred that&#8217;s why no one listen to him speak.</p>
<p>Obama is walking a thin line.  Not for saying what needs to be said.  However the truth is that its an American problem and not unique to black men contrary to popular belief.  However, Obama is like Cosby.  He has only so much street credit and people took notice in the black community when he barely campaign there (unless it was a heavily black voter state) in an effort not to seem like a man only for black people.  More than once Obama used the mike to talk crazy to black folks (despite the truth of his statements) in a way he will never talk to some bigot whites, or other non black people.  His open chastisement of black folks while his silence in their other struggles, makes him seem like he’s beating up on black folks for the approval of whites and other people of color.</p>
<p>I agree with his statements but even I&#8217;m getting wary.  If he wants social change he needs to change everybody or be like too many leaders using black folks as a tool to gain access or approval from everyone else.  The national pass time of a token negro and the growing trend of finding someone black to throw under the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/06/16/happy-fathers-day-from-barack-obama/#comment-6509</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry man, but it's relevant to our discussions on race.  I cover both the good and bad about Obama.  If you think McCain is the better choice for minorities, definitely share your opinions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry man, but it&#8217;s relevant to our discussions on race.  I cover both the good and bad about Obama.  If you think McCain is the better choice for minorities, definitely share your opinions!</p>
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		<title>By: groinpull</title>
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		<dc:creator>groinpull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geeez, do you have a strong hard on for this guy or what?  enough with the obama features already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geeez, do you have a strong hard on for this guy or what?  enough with the obama features already.</p>
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