Comments on: Open Letter To Clinton Supporters: Your Whiteness Is Showing

By: TheMac

TheMac — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:50:41 +0000

Tim Wise has always rocked my socks. I hope everyone saw that crazy Harriet Christian woman, who said that black voters don’t even know why they’re voting for Obama (except that she said 8 seconds later that it’s because of the common blackness), and her romantic pictures of endorsement love with McCain.

If not, just know she’s these ladies’ leader.

By: nycjoc

nycjoc — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:55:58 +0000

I think the author is right on the money in some respects. He isn’t referring to every female HRC support, just a rabid few. Those supports called me out for being female and daring to vote my color instead of my gender thereby constantly denigrated my ability to make an educated decision. I don’t care who beat her Lingyai, there is something wrong with a person will vote against their interest because in a fair contest their candidate lost and they refused the other option. Instead they are asking women to vote for the person who has no interest in the rights of women. Not even for the third party candidate who still represents what you may believe. But McCain. I don’t think so.

And the author is right, these women never seriously supported any other women who ran for office, Braun, Mckinney, Chisholm; where were they (white feminist support) if the whole point was to support a woman at all cost. Nope some of them are being foul and he’s right about that. Hey maybe it’s me but I met a few of the very people he is talking about and I tell it ain’t pretty.

I won’t get into the whole idea that our presidential politics have turned into a festival of inconsequential bs and juvenile name calling in the quest for making a better candidate.

By: Kuroyama

Kuroyama — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:52:24 +0000

I have to agree wholeheartedly. Any quotes or soundbites Ive gotten over here in Japan go well beyond sour grapes and smack directly of refusal to vote for a Black candidate. I havent been under the impression that these voters feel that doing so is a blow to sexism (which they may feel cost Hillary the candidacy)

Its been pretty clear to me all along that its simply the way to go. The unspoken way to avoid voting for a Black. During the next election Im sure youre going to here a plethora of excuses for voting against Obama. None of them will directly state color as cause, but the intent and effect will state for more than words will.

By: Dialectic

Dialectic — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:14:53 +0000

I think “worthless” is a little harsh (and to be fair, the column’s very well-written), but yeah, hopefully, there aren’t that many crazy pro-McCain Hillary supporters.

By: lingyai

lingyai — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:59:02 +0000

This is a worthless column. Wise’s points are nitpicking and weak. Why are there a few (very few) upset Hillary supporters saying they will support John McCain and not saying the will support Cynthia McKinney? Because everyone knows John McCain and he is the only other candidate with a shot. At least 85% of the country probably has never heard of McKinney, and most Hillary supporters do not know who she is either. So it is no surprise these upset Hillary supporters are not saying they will vote for Mckinney instead, they don’t even know who she is.

Wise seems to not like the Democratic party (has not been one himself for a long time he says) or any of past the nominees. He says these women voted for white guys before so them not jumping on board with Obama now means they are some how huge racists. Um none of those guys ran against anything but white men, and none of them just beat out the first woman with a real shot at the white house. So of course the feelings of anger would not be so great towards those white guy nominees.

I am Obama supporter, I have been for a long time. I didn’t support Clinton because she voted for the war. I can look past almost anything, but the war vote was one I can not.

That being said I still think Clinton would have made a good president and she did inspire millions of women and girls. She also made Obama a better candidate. It must be painful to have your choice for president, someone who represents the hopes of millions of woman lose a very close race. For a lot of women it was very personal.

I have no problem with them not jumping on the Obama band wagon right away. Hell the race just ended last week. Give them a few weeks. The absolutely wrong way to attract these women is to start attacking. Wise is actually helping McCain by tossing fuel on the fire. Very few Hillary supporters say they are going to vote for McCain and the few that do will be over the loss in a month and will start supporting Obama.

If it was the reverse I am sure there would be Obama supporters who would vow they would never vote for Hillary.

Let’s give everyone a little time. There has been enough fighting amoung democrats for a while.

President Obama Jan 20th 2009 …yes we can

By: nycjoc

nycjoc — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:22:50 +0000

And you wonder why women of color have, for so long, thought (by and large) that white so-called feminists were phony as hell? Sister please…

That was the money quote for me about why I never join the “white” feminist movement in college.

By: jaehwan

jaehwan — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:51:59 +0000

Awesome post. Tim Wise is calling it as it is!