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	<title>Comments on: Japanese Rice</title>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/05/02/japanese-rice/#comment-6079</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The non-industrialization of food may have also caused China to have less leisure time, thereby limiting the leisure class to only those who were really rich. In other words, there was a much smaller middle class. Most people who produced the food were poor, as were most people who ate it.  I'm just playing devils advocate.  I need to read the book eventually.

What do you think about tampering with genetics?  They had an article today &lt;a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/join-the-hunt-for-super-rice/index.html?th&#038;emc=th" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The non-industrialization of food may have also caused China to have less leisure time, thereby limiting the leisure class to only those who were really rich. In other words, there was a much smaller middle class. Most people who produced the food were poor, as were most people who ate it.  I&#8217;m just playing devils advocate.  I need to read the book eventually.</p>
<p>What do you think about tampering with genetics?  They had an article today <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/join-the-hunt-for-super-rice/index.html?th&#038;emc=th" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: nightshade</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/05/02/japanese-rice/#comment-6069</link>
		<dc:creator>nightshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China was able to feed 300+ million people on its own soil for hundreds of years.

Also, "organic" was how all food was grown--until U.S. industrial framing practices fucked everything up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China was able to feed 300+ million people on its own soil for hundreds of years.</p>
<p>Also, &#8220;organic&#8221; was how all food was grown&#8211;until U.S. industrial framing practices fucked everything up.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/05/02/japanese-rice/#comment-5957</link>
		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm reading this huge book on Abraham Lincoln, but I'll definitely check out that omnivore book when I have a chance.  

I've got many questions about local vs. imported and good-for-society vs. cheap.  It's a big deal because everyone wants to be environmentally friendly and eat organic, local foods, but only the upper middle class and above can afford to.  Green buildings are better for the environment and do great things for society long term, but only a handful of developers can afford the extra expense.  This makes it somewhat difficult.

I remember reading somewhere that corn was always heavily subsidized by the U.S. government, which is why junk food with "high fructose corn syrup" is so much cheaper than good, wholesome foods.  This is another reason why so many poor people in the U.S. are fat.  

Abe hasn't even won the nomination for the Republicans yet, and it may be a while before I get to the book, but what would Pollan say about prices in a more local world?  Sure, industrialized farming is bad for the land and not as healthy, but if it weren't industrialized, wouldn't prices also go through the roof?  People in third world countries around the world are rioting, but wouldn't things be worse if the industrialization of farming stopped and everyone had to pay Japanese prices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading this huge book on Abraham Lincoln, but I&#8217;ll definitely check out that omnivore book when I have a chance.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got many questions about local vs. imported and good-for-society vs. cheap.  It&#8217;s a big deal because everyone wants to be environmentally friendly and eat organic, local foods, but only the upper middle class and above can afford to.  Green buildings are better for the environment and do great things for society long term, but only a handful of developers can afford the extra expense.  This makes it somewhat difficult.</p>
<p>I remember reading somewhere that corn was always heavily subsidized by the U.S. government, which is why junk food with &#8220;high fructose corn syrup&#8221; is so much cheaper than good, wholesome foods.  This is another reason why so many poor people in the U.S. are fat.  </p>
<p>Abe hasn&#8217;t even won the nomination for the Republicans yet, and it may be a while before I get to the book, but what would Pollan say about prices in a more local world?  Sure, industrialized farming is bad for the land and not as healthy, but if it weren&#8217;t industrialized, wouldn&#8217;t prices also go through the roof?  People in third world countries around the world are rioting, but wouldn&#8217;t things be worse if the industrialization of farming stopped and everyone had to pay Japanese prices?</p>
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		<title>By: nightshade</title>
		<link>http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2008/05/02/japanese-rice/#comment-5950</link>
		<dc:creator>nightshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you'd be interested in Michael Pollan's book The Omnivore's Dilemma, which explores food and farming, and what it means for eaters, consumers, producers, and the health of the planet.

The issue isn't really small farms--that's something the American government wants everyone to think so that we support industrialized farming. Efficiency isn't necessary in the best interests of the land that rice is grown on, or for farmers and consumers. The government SHOULD be protecting small farms--if the American government did this, there wouldn't be a farm system in the US that's pinned to petroleum, rather than to the sun. 

The problem here lies in overproduction of rice, which hasn't been altered with the changing Japanese diet. The US has the same problem with corn, except that corn is farmed on a huge scale, and we end up eating it in everything.

Also, Japanese rice may be richer in nutrients because of the way it is grown--which means it should be more expensive. Food should have value in the way it nourishes us.

But yeah, it is messed up that there's a world rice shortage and Japan can't help. (There's also the question of why food should be sent thousands of miles--we should be helping countries with their farming, not exporting food to them if we want everything to be sustainable. Otherwise, if war broke out a country could starve because no one is willing to trade food.)

Yet, if farmers were supported by their governments to grow staples, like Japan has, then fields meant for rice production wouldn't get switched to more lucrative crops like wine grapes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;d be interested in Michael Pollan&#8217;s book The Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma, which explores food and farming, and what it means for eaters, consumers, producers, and the health of the planet.</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t really small farms&#8211;that&#8217;s something the American government wants everyone to think so that we support industrialized farming. Efficiency isn&#8217;t necessary in the best interests of the land that rice is grown on, or for farmers and consumers. The government SHOULD be protecting small farms&#8211;if the American government did this, there wouldn&#8217;t be a farm system in the US that&#8217;s pinned to petroleum, rather than to the sun. </p>
<p>The problem here lies in overproduction of rice, which hasn&#8217;t been altered with the changing Japanese diet. The US has the same problem with corn, except that corn is farmed on a huge scale, and we end up eating it in everything.</p>
<p>Also, Japanese rice may be richer in nutrients because of the way it is grown&#8211;which means it should be more expensive. Food should have value in the way it nourishes us.</p>
<p>But yeah, it is messed up that there&#8217;s a world rice shortage and Japan can&#8217;t help. (There&#8217;s also the question of why food should be sent thousands of miles&#8211;we should be helping countries with their farming, not exporting food to them if we want everything to be sustainable. Otherwise, if war broke out a country could starve because no one is willing to trade food.)</p>
<p>Yet, if farmers were supported by their governments to grow staples, like Japan has, then fields meant for rice production wouldn&#8217;t get switched to more lucrative crops like wine grapes.</p>
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