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	<title>Comments on: Legal vs. Moral Rights, Rights vs. Responsibilities, Freedom vs. Equality</title>
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	<description>Uniting the Asian Conscience</description>
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		<title>By: nightshade</title>
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		<dc:creator>nightshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be required reading in school. Thank you for another great piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be required reading in school. Thank you for another great piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's kind of like squares and rectangles. A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle may or may not be a square.

A geek is not always an Asiaphile, but an Asiaphile is always a geek. =)

I use this analogy all the time because I'm a lamer, and the high point of my life so far was 8th grade geometry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of like squares and rectangles. A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle may or may not be a square.</p>
<p>A geek is not always an Asiaphile, but an Asiaphile is always a geek. =)</p>
<p>I use this analogy all the time because I&#8217;m a lamer, and the high point of my life so far was 8th grade geometry.</p>
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		<title>By: Vetrean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vetrean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You mean one of those guys with zits all over his face that collects Yugi Oh cards?"

Oi, oi.  Being a geek doesn't mean you're an Asiaphile.

Besides, what was 4kid's policy again?  Oh yes.  'By the time we're done with it, kids don't even know it's from Japan anymore.'

Then again, I can't remember if it was 4kids who licensed it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You mean one of those guys with zits all over his face that collects Yugi Oh cards?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oi, oi.  Being a geek doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re an Asiaphile.</p>
<p>Besides, what was 4kid&#8217;s policy again?  Oh yes.  &#8216;By the time we&#8217;re done with it, kids don&#8217;t even know it&#8217;s from Japan anymore.&#8217;</p>
<p>Then again, I can&#8217;t remember if it was 4kids who licensed it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: CJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I wonder how much Asian solidarity has to do with race alone. If a Asian women has a choice between a white-washed ABC Asian man who adores western civilization and a white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture and history, who should she date?"

White man adored by Chinese civilization? You mean one of those guys with zits all over his face that collects Yugi Oh cards? Or those wierd English teachers that go to Asia on extended trips to teach english and have sex with underaged prostitues? Or one of those former sorority guys who are too fat to get a good looking white girl, so he gets Asian girls who would rather choose an ugly white man over a decent looking Asian man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder how much Asian solidarity has to do with race alone. If a Asian women has a choice between a white-washed ABC Asian man who adores western civilization and a white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture and history, who should she date?&#8221;</p>
<p>White man adored by Chinese civilization? You mean one of those guys with zits all over his face that collects Yugi Oh cards? Or those wierd English teachers that go to Asia on extended trips to teach english and have sex with underaged prostitues? Or one of those former sorority guys who are too fat to get a good looking white girl, so he gets Asian girls who would rather choose an ugly white man over a decent looking Asian man?</p>
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		<title>By: CJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with AF is their empowerment to white people. I've said it before, I  think it's okay to be an interracial dater....if you are really an interracial dater.

Dating white men only isn't interracial dating. It's white empowerment. It is telling white men that they are the superior mates. It is telling white men they are superior in intellect. It is saying white men are the best.

When Asians in America have 1/4th of their population empowering white people, it weakens the cause for Asian equality. Those women are making a statement with their actions that we are not equal. So while we do have a lot here wanting empowerment, we have a good number empowering the enemy. Did I call white people the enemy? Sure. Not ALL white people are the enemy. But the one's that control the media. The one's that make racist laws. The one's that tell us we aren't good enough. Unfortunately this portion of the US is big enough so that I can say, white people are the enemy.

So when we have a fourth of are already small and racially divided community sticking up for our enemy, it severely hinders the movement. A house divided cannot stand said Lincoln (I think...probably wrong but it sounds cool). We can't be divided if we want to move forward.

Again great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with AF is their empowerment to white people. I&#8217;ve said it before, I  think it&#8217;s okay to be an interracial dater&#8230;.if you are really an interracial dater.</p>
<p>Dating white men only isn&#8217;t interracial dating. It&#8217;s white empowerment. It is telling white men that they are the superior mates. It is telling white men they are superior in intellect. It is saying white men are the best.</p>
<p>When Asians in America have 1/4th of their population empowering white people, it weakens the cause for Asian equality. Those women are making a statement with their actions that we are not equal. So while we do have a lot here wanting empowerment, we have a good number empowering the enemy. Did I call white people the enemy? Sure. Not ALL white people are the enemy. But the one&#8217;s that control the media. The one&#8217;s that make racist laws. The one&#8217;s that tell us we aren&#8217;t good enough. Unfortunately this portion of the US is big enough so that I can say, white people are the enemy.</p>
<p>So when we have a fourth of are already small and racially divided community sticking up for our enemy, it severely hinders the movement. A house divided cannot stand said Lincoln (I think&#8230;probably wrong but it sounds cool). We can&#8217;t be divided if we want to move forward.</p>
<p>Again great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Dialectic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dialectic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 02:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heli, I've already addressed the complexities of "race" here:
http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2007/02/18/race-stereotyping-and-socially-constructed-knowledge/

And hey, I could make up extreme questions, too, to create meaningless examples with almost no illustrative value under the guise of reasoned hypothetical discussion.  If you were an advocate and you had a chance to go out with an Asian child molester or a white world leader who just donated 30 billion dollars to fight AIDS, who would it be?  Not really the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heli, I&#8217;ve already addressed the complexities of &#8220;race&#8221; here:<br />
<a href="http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2007/02/18/race-stereotyping-and-socially-constructed-knowledge/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefighting44s.com/archives/2007/02/18/race-stereotyping-and-socially-constructed-knowledge/</a></p>
<p>And hey, I could make up extreme questions, too, to create meaningless examples with almost no illustrative value under the guise of reasoned hypothetical discussion.  If you were an advocate and you had a chance to go out with an Asian child molester or a white world leader who just donated 30 billion dollars to fight AIDS, who would it be?  Not really the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heli: If those were MY only two options, and I HAD to pick one, I'd choose the white-washed ABC. He knows what it's like to be discriminated against for being Asian, and he is personally invested in the AA rights fight because it helps HIM, and he can learn the error of his previous ways. I would also sleep better at night knowing no one thought I was a sell-out.

I would AVOID by all means the white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture or history, because in all likelihood, he would treat me like the final object to complete his Chinese history museum.

But really... I'd just be single. It's not that bad, and I'll probably still get catcalled occasionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heli: If those were MY only two options, and I HAD to pick one, I&#8217;d choose the white-washed ABC. He knows what it&#8217;s like to be discriminated against for being Asian, and he is personally invested in the AA rights fight because it helps HIM, and he can learn the error of his previous ways. I would also sleep better at night knowing no one thought I was a sell-out.</p>
<p>I would AVOID by all means the white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture or history, because in all likelihood, he would treat me like the final object to complete his Chinese history museum.</p>
<p>But really&#8230; I&#8217;d just be single. It&#8217;s not that bad, and I&#8217;ll probably still get catcalled occasionally.</p>
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		<title>By: nskripchun</title>
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		<dc:creator>nskripchun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D's been on FIRE with the ed. opinions.

Time to start printing "Dialectic for President" t-shirts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;s been on FIRE with the ed. opinions.</p>
<p>Time to start printing &#8220;Dialectic for President&#8221; t-shirts!</p>
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		<title>By: Heli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much Asian solidarity has to do with race alone. If a Asian women has a choice between a white-washed ABC Asian man who adores western civilization and a white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture and history, who should she date?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much Asian solidarity has to do with race alone. If a Asian women has a choice between a white-washed ABC Asian man who adores western civilization and a white man who is fascinated with Chinese culture and history, who should she date?</p>
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		<title>By: Dialectic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dialectic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi aznbro,

I completely agree with what you're saying.  Instead, they contribute to the polarization of the situation by confusing the issue by shouting about freedom! and girl power! when no one's denying them that at all.

Instead, we become the bad guys when we point out the inconsistency in the image they project and their moral/political positions.

I mean, come on, you have actually walked away from your people in the most cherished, intimate, private aspect of your life.  I'm supposed to trust that you have my best interests in mind?  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi aznbro,</p>
<p>I completely agree with what you&#8217;re saying.  Instead, they contribute to the polarization of the situation by confusing the issue by shouting about freedom! and girl power! when no one&#8217;s denying them that at all.</p>
<p>Instead, we become the bad guys when we point out the inconsistency in the image they project and their moral/political positions.</p>
<p>I mean, come on, you have actually walked away from your people in the most cherished, intimate, private aspect of your life.  I&#8217;m supposed to trust that you have my best interests in mind?  Please.</p>
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