And as xian implies, your logic of Asian vs. white fraternities doesn’t apply because of the history of racial stratification of power. It does make a difference.

Also, your post indicates that you’re not all that aware of the complex social, economic, political, etc. factors which figure into minority experiences, Asian or otherwise. You’re going to have to learn a bit more before you enter the discussion in a meaningful way.

Maybe it would help break some of these stereotypes if more Asian men did more to assimilate or at least hang out with people from other backgrounds. I went to UCLA, where Asians outnumber white people, and yet there were still two Asian-only fraternities and sororities. Seems pretty unnecessary to isolate/self-segregate yourselves like that at a school where you are the majority group. In my fraternity we had at least a dozen or so Asian guys and they dated tons of white girls (along with latina and black girls). So if you are an asian guy and you can only count the number of non-asian friends you have on one hand maybe you should try hanging out with a more multicultural group of people instead of self-segregating yourselves and complaining about negative stereotypes about yourselves. Maybe that’s easier for me to say because I grew up in the Bay Area and live in California, I dunno.

“But when we let the little irritations like IR take control of our mentality, we set ourselves back.”

Little irritation? Obviously Heli don’t know the causes of IR, and what that means as a whole.

First of all, it’s not IR, it’s the imbalance. When AFs feel that AMs are less attractive than WMs, what does that say about their mindset? It shows that we view ourselves as inferior. It seems like Heli feels that bending over for YT is acceptable and equality is an unachievable goal.

Racial oppression does not originate in some inherent, organic differences in phenotypes. It comes from a culture of hate that permeates ethnic majority culture. That is the underlying cause of these various manifestations. The manifestations vary in detail and magnitude in different societal contexts and depending on the groups they take, but that’s not the point.

To say, “We don’t get shot by the police as often” is really no different from the “You should count your blessings–you would have been lynched for saying that a century ago…” rationalization that aversive racists often use.

By failing to compare to the ethnically privileged group, it exhibits a core belief in a system of inequality. “Less unequal” that this group or that era is still “unequal” and that’s the only comparison that should matter.

I don’t want to be treated better than awful. I want to have every equal opportunity and I want the same for everyone on the planet.

Im not suggesting that you wear your “Asian-ness” on your sleeve, but I would suggest that you understand this one thing. It doesnt matter what schools youve gone to, how well you pronounce your English, what model Benz you drive, or where you choose to live. Most people of non-color will look at you and presume you to:

1) Know martial arts, or someone who does.
2) Know a second language.
3) Not be of American birth regardless of how many generations ago your family may have moved here.

My suggestion to you would be to understand the dominant culture, but remember to bring your own identity to the table”

I totally agree!